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FROM: "n barton" <[removed]@scpl.lib.in.us>
REC'D: 1/14/04, 8:33 AM

I am interested in hearing from other libraries about successes and drawbacks of dvds'. I have heard from another local library that the patrons are scratching them badly, and they were not getting as many usages out of them as they did with videos.
We still use videos and are contemplating switching to dvds.
Thanks in advance for your input.
Nancy Barton
Patron Services
Starke County Public LIbrary, Knox, In.

FROM: "Hogan, Jean E." <[removed]@nvcc.edu>
REC'D: 1/14/04, 8:45 AM

I'm from a large community college system in Northern Virginia. We started
ordering feature films on DVD several years ago. I have not come across too
many instances of them being scratched. What I have found is that patrons
lose them and we have to replace them. We charge the retail price for them
or whatever we paid for the title. Our DVDs can only go out for one week;
same as our vhs tapes. The dvds themselves are not kept on the shelves;
only the cases. Patrons have to come to the circulation desk to get the
actual DVD, which is in a separate jewel case. I don't think you should
completely switch over if that is what your are saying. We are still
ordering titles in vhs format. When I have a choice (since I'm the media
librarian) sometimes I get the vhs; sometimes I get the DVD if I can
determine how heavy the usage is likely to be. If a faculty member requests
a title I get the format they ask for. We have DVD and vhs players in the
library and in most classrooms.

-----Original Message-----
From: n barton [[removed]@scpl.lib.in.us]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:28 AM
To: Fiction_L
Subject:

I am interested in hearing from other libraries about successes and
drawbacks of dvds'. I have heard from another local library that the patrons
are scratching them badly, and they were not getting as many usages out of
them as they did with videos.
We still use videos and are contemplating switching to dvds.
Thanks in advance for your input.
Nancy Barton
Patron Services
Starke County Public LIbrary, Knox, In.

FROM: "Kelly Currie" <[removed]@carlnet.org>
REC'D: 1/14/04, 9:07 AM

I think it is true that DVDs are not lasting quite as long as videos.
But I think they are the format of choice for many if not most users,
and so I think it's important for us to offer them. Our turnover on DVDs
and books on CD is much higher than the turnover for videos and books on
tape. We have made a conscious decision to begin buying more DVDs and
very little VHS movies, based on our circulation patterns. We have found
that a simple cleaning sometimes takes care of "fixing" DVDs that will
not run.

Kelly Currie
Delphi Public Library
Delphi, IN

-----Original Message-----
From: [removed]@maillist.webrary.org
[[removed]@maillist.webrary.org] On Behalf Of n barton
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:28 AM
To: Fiction_L
Subject:

I am interested in hearing from other libraries about successes and
drawbacks of dvds'. I have heard from another local library that the
patrons are scratching them badly, and they were not getting as many
usages out of them as they did with videos.
We still use videos and are contemplating switching to dvds.
Thanks in advance for your input.
Nancy Barton
Patron Services
Starke County Public LIbrary, Knox, In.

FROM: "Johnson, Micaela" <[removed]@arls.org>
REC'D: 1/14/04, 9:12 AM

A co-worker of mine found this information on a Friends website - we have since made personalized bookmarks which we hand out to everyone who is checking out dvds. I can't say for sure that it is helping - but then again - it can't hurt can it?

DVD Care Tips
Help ARLS maintain our DVD Collection.
DVDs are expensive to purchase, and as the library's DVD collection grows so do our
problems with damage to them. To help cut down on these damages, the library is starting
an educational campaign to teach our patrons the proper way to handle DVDs.

* Handle a DVD more carefully than a CD.
* To remove from the case press the "push here" button on the hub located at the center of the disc.
* Using your other hand, gently remove the disc by its outer edge.
* Never remove by prying the outer edge.
* Do NOT bend or twist discs.
* Handle discs only from the edges and center hole.
* Do NOT touch the disc surface.
* Do NOT stack discs.
* Make sure the disc is properly seated in the tray before closing the door.
* Single sided discs should always be stored with the title or artwork facing up.
* Always store the disc in its protective case.
* Keep discs away from extreme heat or sunlight.
* Do NOT use any abrasive solvents or cleaning solutions.
* Wipe discs gently in only a radial direction (a straight line between the hub and the rim) NOT in a circle.

FROM: "B. Gigot" <[removed]@hotmail.com>
REC'D: 1/14/04, 9:18 AM

The following is my opinion, not necessarily that of my libraries. I feel
that the market for videos/dvds is currently heading toward phasing out
videos. Even if the DVD's aren't as
durable, we seem to have no choice. Many of the popular new titles that have
come out in the past year have come out in DVD only, or at least that is
what was represented by the places
where I shop for ours. I don't see how we can provide current, popular
entertainment for
our customers without going with the current market trends. Most of my
customers have
realized all of this also, and have gotten DVD players for Christmas this
year. The hold-outs
due to money, or whatever, will not be able to see a lot of the new stuff.

Barb
Wisconsin

>From: "n barton" <[removed]@scpl.lib.in.us>
>Reply-To: "Fiction_L" <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>To: Fiction_L <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:28:29 -0500
>
>I am interested in hearing from other libraries about successes and
>drawbacks of dvds'. I have heard from another local library that the
>patrons are scratching them badly, and they were not getting as many usages
>out of them as they did with videos.
>We still use videos and are contemplating switching to dvds.
>Thanks in advance for your input.
>Nancy Barton
>Patron Services
>Starke County Public LIbrary, Knox, In.
>
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FROM: "Cathy Perkins" <[removed]@waterville.lib.me.us>
REC'D: 1/14/04, 9:46 AM

Our current AV collection consists of both DVDs and VHS videos. I have found
it to be true that the DVDs are getting more scratched than I had originally
thought would be the case. Luckily for us, there is a local business that
resurfaces them for us for a reasonable fee (2.50 ea 10 or more). The VHS
videos do also get damaged but it is easier for us to repair them in-house
(we cut out the bad section and splice them back together - usually with
only a few seconds missing). However, that said, we are still converting
more and more to DVDs. It is simply a matter of patron demand and affordable
availability. Most new films initially come out at a lower price on DVD. AV
patrons are no different than print patrons, they want the most popular
titles as soon as possible. Also, the younger generations especially, love
the additional features most DVDs carry and often express to our desk staff
that is one reason they prefer DVDs. I personally believe that VHS tapes are
going to go the way of the old LPs as far as prerecorded
movies/presentations go. VCRs will continue to stay popular as a method of
recording television programming when one can not be home to watch until
something as affordable and easy to use comes along. That is my two cents
worth. On another note, if you do switch to DVDs use clear cases because
when a video case comes back empty it is easy to tell because it feels light
but with a DVD it is very hard to tell without opening it to tell if the DVD
is indeed inside (just a tip we learned the hard way).

Cathy Perkins

Waterville Public Library

Waterville Maine

-------Original Message-------

From: Fiction_L

Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 09:31:51 AM

To: Fiction_L

I am interested in hearing from other libraries about successes and
drawbacks of dvds'. I have heard from another local library that the patrons
are scratching them badly, and they were not getting as many usages out of
them as they did with videos.

We still use videos and are contemplating switching to dvds.

Thanks in advance for your input.

Nancy Barton

Patron Services

Starke County Public Library, Knox, In.

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FROM: "Hogan, Jean E." <[removed]@nvcc.edu>
REC'D: 1/14/04, 9:58 AM

On another note, if you do switch to DVDs use clear cases because
when a video case comes back empty it is easy to tell because it feels light
but with a DVD it is very hard to tell without opening it to tell if the DVD
is indeed inside (just a tip we learned the hard way).

If you use a barcode system like we do for checking out items we put the
barcode on the DVD so that staff have to open the original DVD case in order
to check in the DVD. Then it is removed from the original case and put into
a jewel case. The original (empty) case goes on the shelves.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cathy Perkins [[removed]@waterville.lib.me.us]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:44 AM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: Re: DVDs

Our current AV collection consists of both DVDs and VHS videos. I have found
it to be true that the DVDs are getting more scratched than I had originally
thought would be the case. Luckily for us, there is a local business that
resurfaces them for us for a reasonable fee (2.50 ea 10 or more). The VHS
videos do also get damaged but it is easier for us to repair them in-house
(we cut out the bad section and splice them back together - usually with
only a few seconds missing). However, that said, we are still converting
more and more to DVDs. It is simply a matter of patron demand and affordable
availability. Most new films initially come out at a lower price on DVD. AV
patrons are no different than print patrons, they want the most popular
titles as soon as possible. Also, the younger generations especially, love
the additional features most DVDs carry and often express to our desk staff
that is one reason they prefer DVDs. I personally believe that VHS tapes are
going to go the way of the old LPs as far as prerecorded
movies/presentations go. VCRs will continue to stay popular as a method of
recording television programming when one can not be home to watch until
something as affordable and easy to use comes along. That is my two cents
worth. On another note, if you do switch to DVDs use clear cases because
when a video case comes back empty it is easy to tell because it feels light
but with a DVD it is very hard to tell without opening it to tell if the DVD
is indeed inside (just a tip we learned the hard way).

Cathy Perkins

Waterville Public Library

Waterville Maine

-------Original Message-------

From: Fiction_L

Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 09:31:51 AM

To: Fiction_L

I am interested in hearing from other libraries about successes and
drawbacks of dvds'. I have heard from another local library that the patrons
are scratching them badly, and they were not getting as many usages out of
them as they did with videos.

We still use videos and are contemplating switching to dvds.

Thanks in advance for your input.

Nancy Barton

Patron Services

Starke County Public Library, Knox, In.

.

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FROM: "Cathy Perkins" <[removed]@waterville.lib.me.us>
REC'D: 1/14/04, 12:22 PM

Just an additional note, as others have already noted, it is a very good
idea to use "dummy (empty)" cases for the browsing shelves. Our DVDs
themselves are put in clear cases and held behind the Main Desk, patrons
bring dummy case to desk, dummy and actual DVD are switched, and DVD in
clear case is checked out.

Cathy Perkins

Waterville Public Library

Waterville Maine

-------Original Message-------

From: Fiction_L

Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:57:39 AM

To: Fiction_L

Subject: RE: DVDs

On another note, if you do switch to DVDs use clear cases because

when a video case comes back empty it is easy to tell because it feels light

but with a DVD it is very hard to tell without opening it to tell if the DVD

is indeed inside (just a tip we learned the hard way).

If you use a barcode system like we do for checking out items we put the

barcode on the DVD so that staff have to open the original DVD case in order

to check in the DVD. Then it is removed from the original case and put into

a jewel case. The original (empty) case goes on the shelves.

-----Original Message-----

From: Cathy Perkins [[removed]@waterville.lib.me.us]

Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:44 AM

To: Fiction_L

Subject: Re: DVDs

Our current AV collection consists of both DVDs and VHS videos. I have found

it to be true that the DVDs are getting more scratched than I had originally

thought would be the case. Luckily for us, there is a local business that

resurfaces them for us for a reasonable fee (2.50 ea 10 or more). The VHS

videos do also get damaged but it is easier for us to repair them in-house

(we cut out the bad section and splice them back together - usually with

only a few seconds missing). However, that said, we are still converting

more and more to DVDs. It is simply a matter of patron demand and affordable

availability. Most new films initially come out at a lower price on DVD. AV

patrons are no different than print patrons, they want the most popular

titles as soon as possible. Also, the younger generations especially, love

the additional features most DVDs carry and often express to our desk staff

that is one reason they prefer DVDs. I personally believe that VHS tapes are

going to go the way of the old LPs as far as prerecorded

movies/presentations go. VCRs will continue to stay popular as a method of

recording television programming when one can not be home to watch until

something as affordable and easy to use comes along. That is my two cents

worth. On another note, if you do switch to DVDs use clear cases because

when a video case comes back empty it is easy to tell because it feels light

but with a DVD it is very hard to tell without opening it to tell if the DVD

is indeed inside (just a tip we learned the hard way).

Cathy Perkins

Waterville Public Library

Waterville Maine

-------Original Message-------

From: Fiction_L

Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 09:31:51 AM

To: Fiction_L

I am interested in hearing from other libraries about successes and

drawbacks of dvds'. I have heard from another local library that the patrons

are scratching them badly, and they were not getting as many usages out of

them as they did with videos.

We still use videos and are contemplating switching to dvds.

Thanks in advance for your input.

Nancy Barton

Patron Services

Starke County Public Library, Knox, In.

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FROM: [removed]@wepl.lib.oh.us
REC'D: 1/14/04, 1:02 PM

We did the empty case switch-a-roo here for a long time, but now we are approaching 3000 DVDs and the strain on the circ staff to put the DVDs back in the cases is enormous (esp. when our patrons check out 15 at a time). We just(in the last week) got lock cases to put them in. This has effected shelving, but so far the process has been relatively smooth. The circ staff is much happier :).

Sarah
Eastlake Public Library

----- Original Message -----
From: Cathy Perkins <[removed]@waterville.lib.me.us>
Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:21 pm
Subject: RE: DVDs

> Just an additional note, as others have already noted, it is a
> very good
> idea to use "dummy (empty)" cases for the browsing shelves. Our DVDs
> themselves are put in clear cases and held behind the Main Desk,
> patronsbring dummy case to desk, dummy and actual DVD are
> switched, and DVD in
> clear case is checked out.
>
> Cathy Perkins
> Waterville Public Library
> Waterville Maine
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Fiction_L
> Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:57:39 AM
> To: Fiction_L
> Subject: RE: DVDs
>
> On another note, if you do switch to DVDs use clear cases because
> when a video case comes back empty it is easy to tell because it
> feels light
> but with a DVD it is very hard to tell without opening it to tell
> if the DVD
> is indeed inside (just a tip we learned the hard way).
>
> If you use a barcode system like we do for checking out items we
> put the
> barcode on the DVD so that staff have to open the original DVD
> case in order
> to check in the DVD. Then it is removed from the original case and
> put into
> a jewel case. The original (empty) case goes on the shelves.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cathy Perkins [[removed]@waterville.lib.me.us]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:44 AM
> To: Fiction_L
> Subject: Re: DVDs
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Our current AV collection consists of both DVDs and VHS videos. I
> have found
> it to be true that the DVDs are getting more scratched than I had
> originallythought would be the case. Luckily for us, there is a
> local business that
> resurfaces them for us for a reasonable fee (2.50 ea 10 or more).
> The VHS
> videos do also get damaged but it is easier for us to repair them
> in-house
> (we cut out the bad section and splice them back together -
> usually with
> only a few seconds missing). However, that said, we are still
> convertingmore and more to DVDs. It is simply a matter of patron
> demand and affordable
> availability. Most new films initially come out at a lower price
> on DVD. AV
> patrons are no different than print patrons, they want the most
> populartitles as soon as possible. Also, the younger generations
> especially, love
> the additional features most DVDs carry and often express to our
> desk staff
> that is one reason they prefer DVDs. I personally believe that VHS
> tapes are
> going to go the way of the old LPs as far as prerecorded
> movies/presentations go. VCRs will continue to stay popular as a
> method of
> recording television programming when one can not be home to watch
> untilsomething as affordable and easy to use comes along. That is
> my two cents
> worth. On another note, if you do switch to DVDs use clear cases
> becausewhen a video case comes back empty it is easy to tell
> because it feels light
> but with a DVD it is very hard to tell without opening it to tell
> if the DVD
> is indeed inside (just a tip we learned the hard way).
>
>
>
> Cathy Perkins
>
> Waterville Public Library
>
> Waterville Maine
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
>
>
> From: Fiction_L
>
> Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 09:31:51 AM
>
> To: Fiction_L
>
>
>
> I am interested in hearing from other libraries about successes and
> drawbacks of dvds'. I have heard from another local library that
> the patrons
> are scratching them badly, and they were not getting as many
> usages out of
> them as they did with videos.
>
> We still use videos and are contemplating switching to dvds.
>
> Thanks in advance for your input.
>
> Nancy Barton
>
> Patron Services
>
> Starke County Public Library, Knox, In.
>
>
>
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FROM: "Renee Zurn" <[removed]@duluth.lib.mn.us>
REC'D: 1/14/04, 4:47 PM

Nancy,
The Duluth Public Library started circulating DVDs last summer. We
place the original case on the shelf with a bar code, a note about
contents (i.e. 2 discs, 1 insert), and a big note "Pick up DVD(s) at
circulation desk." We keep the actual DVDs in plastic sleeves that are
stored in small plastic file boxes from Demco. We currently limit the
number of DVDs a person can checkout to 4 titles. Since we use the
original cases, with 4 titles a person can get from 4 to 20 DVDs with
these 4 titles as some of the titles may be a set like "Sopranos: first
season" or "The Godfather Collection."

Some public libraries in Minnesota lost 50% to 80% of their collection
when they left the DVD in the case on the shelf. It takes more time to
checkout a DVD but we do not have any stolen, only not returned.

Some of them do get scratch but that has not been too big a problem so
far. We get more discs that are cracked about that hub (or hole in the
middle) and eventually break. This was more of a problem in the
beginning as most people were not used to DVDs. We decided to keep the
original packaging to save staff time in processing materials and to
give the patron the original art work. So far, the number of DVDs we
have had to replace due to damage is small.

I purchase popular titles in both formats. I try to match the number
of items I purchase in the two formats to what I purchased in the one
format. For example, when I only purchased in VHS, I would have
purchased 5 VHS recordings of "Finding Nemo"; 2 for the Main Library, 2
for the busier branch library, and 1 for the slower branch library. But
with the two formats, I will purchase 3 VHS and 3 DVDs; one for each
library location.

I will purchase most foreign films in DVD due to the added information.
I have been adding nonfiction titles more in DVD format than VHS but
that is because I usually have a recent VHS on that subject. However, I
do duplicate nonfiction formats depending on how popular the title or
subject is.

>>> [removed]@scpl.lib.in.us 01/14/04 08:28AM >>>
I am interested in hearing from other libraries about successes and
drawbacks of dvds'. I have heard from another local library that the
patrons are scratching them badly, and they were not getting as many
usages out of them as they did with videos.
We still use videos and are contemplating switching to dvds.
Thanks in advance for your input.
Nancy Barton
Patron Services
Starke County Public LIbrary, Knox, In.

FROM: "Renee Zurn" <[removed]@duluth.lib.mn.us>
REC'D: 1/14/04, 4:59 PM

Nancy,
I forgot to sign my email!

I also wanted to add that most of our circulation is still VHS and
books on tape, not DVD and compact disc.

Renee Zurn
Duluth Public Library
Duluth MN

>>> [removed]@duluth.lib.mn.us 01/14/04 04:45PM >>>
Nancy,
The Duluth Public Library started circulating DVDs last summer. We
place the original case on the shelf with a bar code, a note about
contents (i.e. 2 discs, 1 insert), and a big note "Pick up DVD(s) at
circulation desk." We keep the actual DVDs in plastic sleeves that
are
stored in small plastic file boxes from Demco. We currently limit the
number of DVDs a person can checkout to 4 titles. Since we use the
original cases, with 4 titles a person can get from 4 to 20 DVDs with
these 4 titles as some of the titles may be a set like "Sopranos:
first
season" or "The Godfather Collection."

Some public libraries in Minnesota lost 50% to 80% of their collection
when they left the DVD in the case on the shelf. It takes more time
to
checkout a DVD but we do not have any stolen, only not returned.

Some of them do get scratch but that has not been too big a problem so
far. We get more discs that are cracked about that hub (or hole in
the
middle) and eventually break. This was more of a problem in the
beginning as most people were not used to DVDs. We decided to keep
the
original packaging to save staff time in processing materials and to
give the patron the original art work. So far, the number of DVDs we
have had to replace due to damage is small.

I purchase popular titles in both formats. I try to match the number
of items I purchase in the two formats to what I purchased in the one
format. For example, when I only purchased in VHS, I would have
purchased 5 VHS recordings of "Finding Nemo"; 2 for the Main Library,
2
for the busier branch library, and 1 for the slower branch library.
But
with the two formats, I will purchase 3 VHS and 3 DVDs; one for each
library location.

I will purchase most foreign films in DVD due to the added
information.
I have been adding nonfiction titles more in DVD format than VHS but
that is because I usually have a recent VHS on that subject. However,
I
do duplicate nonfiction formats depending on how popular the title or
subject is.

>>> [removed]@scpl.lib.in.us 01/14/04 08:28AM >>>
I am interested in hearing from other libraries about successes and
drawbacks of dvds'. I have heard from another local library that the
patrons are scratching them badly, and they were not getting as many
usages out of them as they did with videos.
We still use videos and are contemplating switching to dvds.
Thanks in advance for your input.
Nancy Barton
Patron Services
Starke County Public LIbrary, Knox, In.

FROM: "Barb Borg-Jenkins, South Haven Public Library" <[removed]@pcpls.lib.in.us>
REC'D: 1/14/04, 5:05 PM

We found that patrons are scratching them badly because they are
cleaning them improperly. People are using Windex and paper towels
(actually had one patron brag that he was doing this), and doing it the
way people used to do with records...around and around.

We now have stickers that we put outside on the cases asking patrons to
not clean DVD's.

Barbara Borg-Jenkins
South Haven Public Library
Valparaiso, In 46385

n barton wrote:

>I am interested in hearing from other libraries about successes and drawbacks of dvds'. I have heard from another local library that the patrons are scratching them badly, and they were not getting as many usages out of them as they did with videos.
>We still use videos and are contemplating switching to dvds.
>Thanks in advance for your input.
>Nancy Barton
>Patron Services
>Starke County Public LIbrary, Knox, In.
>
>......................................................................
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FROM: "Jennifer Crenshaw" <[removed]@hotmail.com>
REC'D: 1/14/04, 9:22 PM

I can highly recommend the Zenith Pak locking DVD cases. They are
inexpensive, quick for the staff to get in and out of, and take up the same
amount of space as the standard cases. I have only had one "jam" after
about six months use. A patron broke the lock off trying to open it at home
after the staff missed opening it. It took the key, a screwdriver, and two
staff members to slip the dvd out. We have been able to add our book
security strips in them as well. I'm interested in knowing how well the
resurfacing works.

Jennifer Crenshaw
Pickens County Library System

>From: [removed]@wepl.lib.oh.us
>Reply-To: "Fiction_L" <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>To: Fiction_L <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>Subject: Re: RE: DVDs
>Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:44:55 -0500
>
>We did the empty case switch-a-roo here for a long time, but now we are
>approaching 3000 DVDs and the strain on the circ staff to put the DVDs back
>in the cases is enormous (esp. when our patrons check out 15 at a time).
>We just(in the last week) got lock cases to put them in. This has effected
>shelving, but so far the process has been relatively smooth. The circ
>staff is much happier :).
>
>Sarah
>Eastlake Public Library
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Cathy Perkins <[removed]@waterville.lib.me.us>
>Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:21 pm
>Subject: RE: DVDs
>
> > Just an additional note, as others have already noted, it is a
> > very good
> > idea to use "dummy (empty)" cases for the browsing shelves. Our DVDs
> > themselves are put in clear cases and held behind the Main Desk,
> > patronsbring dummy case to desk, dummy and actual DVD are
> > switched, and DVD in
> > clear case is checked out.
> >
> > Cathy Perkins
> > Waterville Public Library
> > Waterville Maine
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: Fiction_L
> > Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:57:39 AM
> > To: Fiction_L
> > Subject: RE: DVDs
> >
> > On another note, if you do switch to DVDs use clear cases because
> > when a video case comes back empty it is easy to tell because it
> > feels light
> > but with a DVD it is very hard to tell without opening it to tell
> > if the DVD
> > is indeed inside (just a tip we learned the hard way).
> >
> > If you use a barcode system like we do for checking out items we
> > put the
> > barcode on the DVD so that staff have to open the original DVD
> > case in order
> > to check in the DVD. Then it is removed from the original case and
> > put into
> > a jewel case. The original (empty) case goes on the shelves.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cathy Perkins [[removed]@waterville.lib.me.us]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:44 AM
> > To: Fiction_L
> > Subject: Re: DVDs
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Our current AV collection consists of both DVDs and VHS videos. I
> > have found
> > it to be true that the DVDs are getting more scratched than I had
> > originallythought would be the case. Luckily for us, there is a
> > local business that
> > resurfaces them for us for a reasonable fee (2.50 ea 10 or more).
> > The VHS
> > videos do also get damaged but it is easier for us to repair them
> > in-house
> > (we cut out the bad section and splice them back together -
> > usually with
> > only a few seconds missing). However, that said, we are still
> > convertingmore and more to DVDs. It is simply a matter of patron
> > demand and affordable
> > availability. Most new films initially come out at a lower price
> > on DVD. AV
> > patrons are no different than print patrons, they want the most
> > populartitles as soon as possible. Also, the younger generations
> > especially, love
> > the additional features most DVDs carry and often express to our
> > desk staff
> > that is one reason they prefer DVDs. I personally believe that VHS
> > tapes are
> > going to go the way of the old LPs as far as prerecorded
> > movies/presentations go. VCRs will continue to stay popular as a
> > method of
> > recording television programming when one can not be home to watch
> > untilsomething as affordable and easy to use comes along. That is
> > my two cents
> > worth. On another note, if you do switch to DVDs use clear cases
> > becausewhen a video case comes back empty it is easy to tell
> > because it feels light
> > but with a DVD it is very hard to tell without opening it to tell
> > if the DVD
> > is indeed inside (just a tip we learned the hard way).
> >
> >
> >
> > Cathy Perkins
> >
> > Waterville Public Library
> >
> > Waterville Maine
> >
> >
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Fiction_L
> >
> > Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 09:31:51 AM
> >
> > To: Fiction_L
> >
> >
> >
> > I am interested in hearing from other libraries about successes and
> > drawbacks of dvds'. I have heard from another local library that
> > the patrons
> > are scratching them badly, and they were not getting as many
> > usages out of
> > them as they did with videos.
> >
> > We still use videos and are contemplating switching to dvds.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your input.
> >
> > Nancy Barton
> >
> > Patron Services
> >
> > Starke County Public Library, Knox, In.
> >
> >
> >
> > ..
> >
> > Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
> >
> > Everything Fiction_L: http://fictionl.webrary.org
> >
> > ..
> >
> > .......................................................................
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> >
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> >
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FROM: "Hogan, Jean E." <[removed]@nvcc.edu>
REC'D: 1/15/04, 7:33 AM

Jennifer,
Who is the distributor/vendor for the Zenith Paks???

-----Original Message-----
From: Jennifer Crenshaw [[removed]@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:19 PM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: DVDs

I can highly recommend the Zenith Pak locking DVD cases. They are
inexpensive, quick for the staff to get in and out of, and take up the same
amount of space as the standard cases. I have only had one "jam" after
about six months use. A patron broke the lock off trying to open it at home

after the staff missed opening it. It took the key, a screwdriver, and two
staff members to slip the dvd out. We have been able to add our book
security strips in them as well. I'm interested in knowing how well the
resurfacing works.

Jennifer Crenshaw
Pickens County Library System

>From: [removed]@wepl.lib.oh.us
>Reply-To: "Fiction_L" <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>To: Fiction_L <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>Subject: Re: RE: DVDs
>Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:44:55 -0500
>
>We did the empty case switch-a-roo here for a long time, but now we are
>approaching 3000 DVDs and the strain on the circ staff to put the DVDs back

>in the cases is enormous (esp. when our patrons check out 15 at a time).
>We just(in the last week) got lock cases to put them in. This has effected

>shelving, but so far the process has been relatively smooth. The circ
>staff is much happier :).
>
>Sarah
>Eastlake Public Library
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Cathy Perkins <[removed]@waterville.lib.me.us>
>Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:21 pm
>Subject: RE: DVDs
>
> > Just an additional note, as others have already noted, it is a
> > very good
> > idea to use "dummy (empty)" cases for the browsing shelves. Our DVDs
> > themselves are put in clear cases and held behind the Main Desk,
> > patronsbring dummy case to desk, dummy and actual DVD are
> > switched, and DVD in
> > clear case is checked out.
> >
> > Cathy Perkins
> > Waterville Public Library
> > Waterville Maine
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: Fiction_L
> > Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:57:39 AM
> > To: Fiction_L
> > Subject: RE: DVDs
> >
> > On another note, if you do switch to DVDs use clear cases because
> > when a video case comes back empty it is easy to tell because it
> > feels light
> > but with a DVD it is very hard to tell without opening it to tell
> > if the DVD
> > is indeed inside (just a tip we learned the hard way).
> >
> > If you use a barcode system like we do for checking out items we
> > put the
> > barcode on the DVD so that staff have to open the original DVD
> > case in order
> > to check in the DVD. Then it is removed from the original case and
> > put into
> > a jewel case. The original (empty) case goes on the shelves.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cathy Perkins [[removed]@waterville.lib.me.us]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:44 AM
> > To: Fiction_L
> > Subject: Re: DVDs
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Our current AV collection consists of both DVDs and VHS videos. I
> > have found
> > it to be true that the DVDs are getting more scratched than I had
> > originallythought would be the case. Luckily for us, there is a
> > local business that
> > resurfaces them for us for a reasonable fee (2.50 ea 10 or more).
> > The VHS
> > videos do also get damaged but it is easier for us to repair them
> > in-house
> > (we cut out the bad section and splice them back together -
> > usually with
> > only a few seconds missing). However, that said, we are still
> > convertingmore and more to DVDs. It is simply a matter of patron
> > demand and affordable
> > availability. Most new films initially come out at a lower price
> > on DVD. AV
> > patrons are no different than print patrons, they want the most
> > populartitles as soon as possible. Also, the younger generations
> > especially, love
> > the additional features most DVDs carry and often express to our
> > desk staff
> > that is one reason they prefer DVDs. I personally believe that VHS
> > tapes are
> > going to go the way of the old LPs as far as prerecorded
> > movies/presentations go. VCRs will continue to stay popular as a
> > method of
> > recording television programming when one can not be home to watch
> > untilsomething as affordable and easy to use comes along. That is
> > my two cents
> > worth. On another note, if you do switch to DVDs use clear cases
> > becausewhen a video case comes back empty it is easy to tell
> > because it feels light
> > but with a DVD it is very hard to tell without opening it to tell
> > if the DVD
> > is indeed inside (just a tip we learned the hard way).
> >
> >
> >
> > Cathy Perkins
> >
> > Waterville Public Library
> >
> > Waterville Maine
> >
> >
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Fiction_L
> >
> > Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 09:31:51 AM
> >
> > To: Fiction_L
> >
> >
> >
> > I am interested in hearing from other libraries about successes and
> > drawbacks of dvds'. I have heard from another local library that
> > the patrons
> > are scratching them badly, and they were not getting as many
> > usages out of
> > them as they did with videos.
> >
> > We still use videos and are contemplating switching to dvds.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your input.
> >
> > Nancy Barton
> >
> > Patron Services
> >
> > Starke County Public Library, Knox, In.
> >
> >
> >
> > ..
> >
> > Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
> >
> > Everything Fiction_L: http://fictionl.webrary.org
> >
> > ..
> >
> > .......................................................................
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FROM: Heuer <[removed]@itol.com>
REC'D: 1/15/04, 7:39 AM

No it can't hurt but frankly the way I see some of our DVD's treated I
wonder if the people who check them out can read. OK, that probably isn't
fair but we get some back that are sticky, greasy (I think it was hand
lotion) or just covered with fingerprints. My Books on CD look like they
were rolled around in the gravel on the floor of their car. Lately we have
seen a high incidence of theft. We have the DVD boxes with the locks so I
assume the thieves are just destroying the boxes and watching then reselling
the DVDs?
Sorry to be such a pessimist today. Think I will go read a book.

--
Jeanne Heuer
Brown County Library
Green Bay, WI
[removed]@itol.com

"Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes,
Art is knowing which ones to keep." -anonymous

>
> A co-worker of mine found this information on a Friends website - we have
> since made personalized bookmarks which we hand out to everyone who is
> checking out dvds. I can't say for sure that it is helping - but then again -
> it can't hurt can it?
>
> DVD Care Tips

FROM: "Claudia E. Cayne" <[removed]@biblio.org>
REC'D: 1/15/04, 9:32 AM

We started making our own stickers that say, in bold type - Don't Break the
DVDs, push center button to release. The instructions in the case are black
on black and very difficult to see. It's too soon to tell if this will have
any effect but I am hopeful.

____________________________________________________________________
Claudia E. Cayne
Director
Scoville Memorial Library
38 Main St., Salisbury, CT 06068
860-435-2838
[removed]@biblio.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barb Borg-Jenkins, South Haven Public Library"
<[removed]@pcpls.lib.in.us>
To: "Fiction_L" <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 6:05 PM
Subject: Re:

> We found that patrons are scratching them badly because they are
> cleaning them improperly. People are using Windex and paper towels
> (actually had one patron brag that he was doing this), and doing it the
> way people used to do with records...around and around.
>
> We now have stickers that we put outside on the cases asking patrons to
> not clean DVD's.
>
> Barbara Borg-Jenkins
> South Haven Public Library
> Valparaiso, In 46385
>
> n barton wrote:
>
> >I am interested in hearing from other libraries about successes and
drawbacks of dvds'. I have heard from another local library that the patrons
are scratching them badly, and they were not getting as many usages out of
them as they did with videos.
> >We still use videos and are contemplating switching to dvds.
> >Thanks in advance for your input.
> >Nancy Barton
> >Patron Services
> >Starke County Public LIbrary, Knox, In.
> >
> >......................................................................
> >Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
> >Everything Fiction_L: http://fictionl.webrary.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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FROM: Spencer Ms Martha <[removed]@usmc-mccs.org>
REC'D: 1/15/04, 10:26 AM

We have just started checking out DVDs a week ago. Based on our experience
with music tapes, we are not shelving the actual DVDs where patrons can get
to them. We used to lose music at a terrific rate, so we took our clue from
the video stores so that the only way to get a DVD is if it is checked out.

We are seeing carelessness. One looked like handled it with very greasy
hands. Fingerprints are there too and we are enclosing a sheet with each one
to give instructions on how to handle them and we ask them not to attempt to
clean them.

Martha

-----Original Message-----
From: Heuer [[removed]@itol.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:44 AM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: Re: DVD Collection - Problems /Soultions

No it can't hurt but frankly the way I see some of our DVD's treated I
wonder if the people who check them out can read. OK, that probably isn't
fair but we get some back that are sticky, greasy (I think it was hand
lotion) or just covered with fingerprints. My Books on CD look like they
were rolled around in the gravel on the floor of their car. Lately we have
seen a high incidence of theft. We have the DVD boxes with the locks so I
assume the thieves are just destroying the boxes and watching then reselling
the DVDs?
Sorry to be such a pessimist today. Think I will go read a book.

--
Jeanne Heuer
Brown County Library
Green Bay, WI
[removed]@itol.com

"Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes,
Art is knowing which ones to keep." -anonymous

>
> A co-worker of mine found this information on a Friends website - we have
> since made personalized bookmarks which we hand out to everyone who is
> checking out dvds. I can't say for sure that it is helping - but then
again -
> it can't hurt can it?
>
> DVD Care Tips

FROM: Kathleen Martin <[removed]@gvpl.ca>
REC'D: 1/15/04, 4:08 PM

I am glad to see this discussion. Our library began circulating our DVD
collection in the fall and all problems land on my desk. We have security
stripped the DVD's and put them out for circulation. I currently have a
goodly number on my desk that look okay but have problems playing,
especially skipping. I would like the library to switch to a security
strip that sits around the core, instead of two parallel strips but they
are supposedly less effective.
Scratching is a problem and I have been sending some off for resurfacing
which does work unless the scratch is very deep. I also send CD's and CD
ROMs for resurfacing.

Anyone out there security stripping? So far it seems most of the
correspondent's are keeping items behind the desk.

Kathleen Martin
Co-ordinator of Community Services
Greater Victoria Public Library
Victoria, B.C.

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 [removed]@wepl.lib.oh.us wrote:

> We did the empty case switch-a-roo here for a long time, but now we are approaching 3000 DVDs and the strain on the circ staff to put the DVDs back in the cases is enormous (esp. when our patrons check out 15 at a time). We just(in the last week) got lock cases to put them in. This has effected shelving, but so far the process has been relatively smooth. The circ staff is much happier :).
>
> Sarah
> Eastlake Public Library
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cathy Perkins <[removed]@waterville.lib.me.us>
> Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:21 pm
> Subject: RE: DVDs
>
> > Just an additional note, as others have already noted, it is a
> > very good
> > idea to use "dummy (empty)" cases for the browsing shelves. Our DVDs
> > themselves are put in clear cases and held behind the Main Desk,
> > patronsbring dummy case to desk, dummy and actual DVD are
> > switched, and DVD in
> > clear case is checked out.
> >
> > Cathy Perkins
> > Waterville Public Library
> > Waterville Maine
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: Fiction_L
> > Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:57:39 AM
> > To: Fiction_L
> > Subject: RE: DVDs
> >
> > On another note, if you do switch to DVDs use clear cases because
> > when a video case comes back empty it is easy to tell because it
> > feels light
> > but with a DVD it is very hard to tell without opening it to tell
> > if the DVD
> > is indeed inside (just a tip we learned the hard way).
> >
> > If you use a barcode system like we do for checking out items we
> > put the
> > barcode on the DVD so that staff have to open the original DVD
> > case in order
> > to check in the DVD. Then it is removed from the original case and
> > put into
> > a jewel case. The original (empty) case goes on the shelves.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cathy Perkins [[removed]@waterville.lib.me.us]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:44 AM
> > To: Fiction_L
> > Subject: Re: DVDs
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Our current AV collection consists of both DVDs and VHS videos. I
> > have found
> > it to be true that the DVDs are getting more scratched than I had
> > originallythought would be the case. Luckily for us, there is a
> > local business that
> > resurfaces them for us for a reasonable fee (2.50 ea 10 or more).
> > The VHS
> > videos do also get damaged but it is easier for us to repair them
> > in-house
> > (we cut out the bad section and splice them back together -
> > usually with
> > only a few seconds missing). However, that said, we are still
> > convertingmore and more to DVDs. It is simply a matter of patron
> > demand and affordable
> > availability. Most new films initially come out at a lower price
> > on DVD. AV
> > patrons are no different than print patrons, they want the most
> > populartitles as soon as possible. Also, the younger generations
> > especially, love
> > the additional features most DVDs carry and often express to our
> > desk staff
> > that is one reason they prefer DVDs. I personally believe that VHS
> > tapes are
> > going to go the way of the old LPs as far as prerecorded
> > movies/presentations go. VCRs will continue to stay popular as a
> > method of
> > recording television programming when one can not be home to watch
> > untilsomething as affordable and easy to use comes along. That is
> > my two cents
> > worth. On another note, if you do switch to DVDs use clear cases
> > becausewhen a video case comes back empty it is easy to tell
> > because it feels light
> > but with a DVD it is very hard to tell without opening it to tell
> > if the DVD
> > is indeed inside (just a tip we learned the hard way).
> >
> >
> >
> > Cathy Perkins
> >
> > Waterville Public Library
> >
> > Waterville Maine
> >
> >
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Fiction_L
> >
> > Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 09:31:51 AM
> >
> > To: Fiction_L
> >
> >
> >
> > I am interested in hearing from other libraries about successes and
> > drawbacks of dvds'. I have heard from another local library that
> > the patrons
> > are scratching them badly, and they were not getting as many
> > usages out of
> > them as they did with videos.
> >
> > We still use videos and are contemplating switching to dvds.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your input.
> >
> > Nancy Barton
> >
> > Patron Services
> >
> > Starke County Public Library, Knox, In.
> >
> >
> >
> > ..
> >
> > Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
> >
> > Everything Fiction_L: http://fictionl.webrary.org
> >
> > ..
> >
> > .......................................................................
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> >
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FROM: "Mary Jane Celsie" <[removed]@hotmail.com>
REC'D: 1/15/04, 4:24 PM

We've been security stripping our DVDs as well, with surprisingly few
problems (except, of course, for double-sided DVDs which we simply do not
buy). Initially we did have some obvious attempts at trying to peel off the
DVD overlay, but we have added a warning to our cases to the effect that
peeling the overlay will result in damage to both the DVD and any machine it
is played on and that seems to have cut down on attempts to remove the
strips. We've also had reports from some patrons that higher-end DVD
players "read" the strips as a defect and will not play the disc. This is
fairly rare. That said, however, I'd have to agree with other comments that
the format is not nearly as robust as we had expected. We have tried a
re-surfacing fluid that we apply ourselves and that seems to work with minor
scratches quite well. I'd be interested in hearing more about any
commercial resurfacing services out there.

MJ

Mary Jane Celsie
Director of Service Development
Richmond Hill Public Library
905-770-0310, Ext. 422
[removed]@yahoo.ca

>From: Kathleen Martin <[removed]@gvpl.ca>
>Reply-To: "Fiction_L" <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>To: Fiction_L <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>Subject: Re: RE: DVDs
>Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:06:54 -0800 (PST)
>
> I am glad to see this discussion. Our library began circulating our DVD
>collection in the fall and all problems land on my desk. We have security
>stripped the DVD's and put them out for circulation. I currently have a
>goodly number on my desk that look okay but have problems playing,
>especially skipping. I would like the library to switch to a security
>strip that sits around the core, instead of two parallel strips but they
>are supposedly less effective.
>Scratching is a problem and I have been sending some off for resurfacing
>which does work unless the scratch is very deep. I also send CD's and CD
>ROMs for resurfacing.
>
>Anyone out there security stripping? So far it seems most of the
>correspondent's are keeping items behind the desk.
>
>Kathleen Martin
>Co-ordinator of Community Services
>Greater Victoria Public Library
>Victoria, B.C.
>
>
>On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 [removed]@wepl.lib.oh.us wrote:
>
> > We did the empty case switch-a-roo here for a long time, but now we are
>approaching 3000 DVDs and the strain on the circ staff to put the DVDs back
>in the cases is enormous (esp. when our patrons check out 15 at a time).
>We just(in the last week) got lock cases to put them in. This has effected
>shelving, but so far the process has been relatively smooth. The circ
>staff is much happier :).
> >
> > Sarah
> > Eastlake Public Library
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Cathy Perkins <[removed]@waterville.lib.me.us>
> > Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:21 pm
> > Subject: RE: DVDs
> >
> > > Just an additional note, as others have already noted, it is a
> > > very good
> > > idea to use "dummy (empty)" cases for the browsing shelves. Our DVDs
> > > themselves are put in clear cases and held behind the Main Desk,
> > > patronsbring dummy case to desk, dummy and actual DVD are
> > > switched, and DVD in
> > > clear case is checked out.
> > >
> > > Cathy Perkins
> > > Waterville Public Library
> > > Waterville Maine
> > >
> > > -------Original Message-------
> > >
> > > From: Fiction_L
> > > Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:57:39 AM
> > > To: Fiction_L
> > > Subject: RE: DVDs
> > >
> > > On another note, if you do switch to DVDs use clear cases because
> > > when a video case comes back empty it is easy to tell because it
> > > feels light
> > > but with a DVD it is very hard to tell without opening it to tell
> > > if the DVD
> > > is indeed inside (just a tip we learned the hard way).
> > >
> > > If you use a barcode system like we do for checking out items we
> > > put the
> > > barcode on the DVD so that staff have to open the original DVD
> > > case in order
> > > to check in the DVD. Then it is removed from the original case and
> > > put into
> > > a jewel case. The original (empty) case goes on the shelves.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Cathy Perkins [[removed]@waterville.lib.me.us]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:44 AM
> > > To: Fiction_L
> > > Subject: Re: DVDs
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Our current AV collection consists of both DVDs and VHS videos. I
> > > have found
> > > it to be true that the DVDs are getting more scratched than I had
> > > originallythought would be the case. Luckily for us, there is a
> > > local business that
> > > resurfaces them for us for a reasonable fee (2.50 ea 10 or more).
> > > The VHS
> > > videos do also get damaged but it is easier for us to repair them
> > > in-house
> > > (we cut out the bad section and splice them back together -
> > > usually with
> > > only a few seconds missing). However, that said, we are still
> > > convertingmore and more to DVDs. It is simply a matter of patron
> > > demand and affordable
> > > availability. Most new films initially come out at a lower price
> > > on DVD. AV
> > > patrons are no different than print patrons, they want the most
> > > populartitles as soon as possible. Also, the younger generations
> > > especially, love
> > > the additional features most DVDs carry and often express to our
> > > desk staff
> > > that is one reason they prefer DVDs. I personally believe that VHS
> > > tapes are
> > > going to go the way of the old LPs as far as prerecorded
> > > movies/presentations go. VCRs will continue to stay popular as a
> > > method of
> > > recording television programming when one can not be home to watch
> > > untilsomething as affordable and easy to use comes along. That is
> > > my two cents
> > > worth. On another note, if you do switch to DVDs use clear cases
> > > becausewhen a video case comes back empty it is easy to tell
> > > because it feels light
> > > but with a DVD it is very hard to tell without opening it to tell
> > > if the DVD
> > > is indeed inside (just a tip we learned the hard way).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cathy Perkins
> > >
> > > Waterville Public Library
> > >
> > > Waterville Maine
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -------Original Message-------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Fiction_L
> > >
> > > Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 09:31:51 AM
> > >
> > > To: Fiction_L
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am interested in hearing from other libraries about successes and
> > > drawbacks of dvds'. I have heard from another local library that
> > > the patrons
> > > are scratching them badly, and they were not getting as many
> > > usages out of
> > > them as they did with videos.
> > >
> > > We still use videos and are contemplating switching to dvds.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for your input.
> > >
> > > Nancy Barton
> > >
> > > Patron Services
> > >
> > > Starke County Public Library, Knox, In.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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FROM: "Linda Cannon" <[removed]@joplinpubliclibrary.org>
REC'D: 1/15/04, 4:35 PM

We use locking cases and put ours out on the shelves. Works pretty darned well.

Linda Cannon, Collection Development Librarian
Joplin Public Library
300 S. Main St.
Joplin, MO 64801-2384

417-623-7953 (fax 417-624-5217)
email [removed]@joplinpubliclibrary.org

-----Original Message-----
From: Kathleen Martin [[removed]@gvpl.ca]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 4:07 PM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: Re: RE: DVDs

I am glad to see this discussion. Our library began circulating our DVD
collection in the fall and all problems land on my desk. We have security
stripped the DVD's and put them out for circulation. I currently have a
goodly number on my desk that look okay but have problems playing,
especially skipping. I would like the library to switch to a security
strip that sits around the core, instead of two parallel strips but they
are supposedly less effective.
Scratching is a problem and I have been sending some off for resurfacing
which does work unless the scratch is very deep. I also send CD's and CD
ROMs for resurfacing.

Anyone out there security stripping? So far it seems most of the
correspondent's are keeping items behind the desk.

Kathleen Martin
Co-ordinator of Community Services
Greater Victoria Public Library
Victoria, B.C.

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 [removed]@wepl.lib.oh.us wrote:

> We did the empty case switch-a-roo here for a long time, but now we are approaching 3000 DVDs and the strain on the circ staff to put the DVDs back in the cases is enormous (esp. when our patrons check out 15 at a time). We just(in the last week) got lock cases to put them in. This has effected shelving, but so far the process has been relatively smooth. The circ staff is much happier :).
>
> Sarah
> Eastlake Public Library
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cathy Perkins <[removed]@waterville.lib.me.us>
> Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:21 pm
> Subject: RE: DVDs
>
> > Just an additional note, as others have already noted, it is a
> > very good
> > idea to use "dummy (empty)" cases for the browsing shelves. Our DVDs
> > themselves are put in clear cases and held behind the Main Desk,
> > patronsbring dummy case to desk, dummy and actual DVD are
> > switched, and DVD in
> > clear case is checked out.
> >
> > Cathy Perkins
> > Waterville Public Library
> > Waterville Maine
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: Fiction_L
> > Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:57:39 AM
> > To: Fiction_L
> > Subject: RE: DVDs
> >
> > On another note, if you do switch to DVDs use clear cases because
> > when a video case comes back empty it is easy to tell because it
> > feels light
> > but with a DVD it is very hard to tell without opening it to tell
> > if the DVD
> > is indeed inside (just a tip we learned the hard way).
> >
> > If you use a barcode system like we do for checking out items we
> > put the
> > barcode on the DVD so that staff have to open the original DVD
> > case in order
> > to check in the DVD. Then it is removed from the original case and
> > put into
> > a jewel case. The original (empty) case goes on the shelves.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cathy Perkins [[removed]@waterville.lib.me.us]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:44 AM
> > To: Fiction_L
> > Subject: Re: DVDs
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Our current AV collection consists of both DVDs and VHS videos. I
> > have found
> > it to be true that the DVDs are getting more scratched than I had
> > originallythought would be the case. Luckily for us, there is a
> > local business that
> > resurfaces them for us for a reasonable fee (2.50 ea 10 or more).
> > The VHS
> > videos do also get damaged but it is easier for us to repair them
> > in-house
> > (we cut out the bad section and splice them back together -
> > usually with
> > only a few seconds missing). However, that said, we are still
> > convertingmore and more to DVDs. It is simply a matter of patron
> > demand and affordable
> > availability. Most new films initially come out at a lower price
> > on DVD. AV
> > patrons are no different than print patrons, they want the most
> > populartitles as soon as possible. Also, the younger generations
> > especially, love
> > the additional features most DVDs carry and often express to our
> > desk staff
> > that is one reason they prefer DVDs. I personally believe that VHS
> > tapes are
> > going to go the way of the old LPs as far as prerecorded
> > movies/presentations go. VCRs will continue to stay popular as a
> > method of
> > recording television programming when one can not be home to watch
> > untilsomething as affordable and easy to use comes along. That is
> > my two cents
> > worth. On another note, if you do switch to DVDs use clear cases
> > becausewhen a video case comes back empty it is easy to tell
> > because it feels light
> > but with a DVD it is very hard to tell without opening it to tell
> > if the DVD
> > is indeed inside (just a tip we learned the hard way).
> >
> >
> >
> > Cathy Perkins
> >
> > Waterville Public Library
> >
> > Waterville Maine
> >
> >
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Fiction_L
> >
> > Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 09:31:51 AM
> >
> > To: Fiction_L
> >
> >
> >
> > I am interested in hearing from other libraries about successes and
> > drawbacks of dvds'. I have heard from another local library that
> > the patrons
> > are scratching them badly, and they were not getting as many
> > usages out of
> > them as they did with videos.
> >
> > We still use videos and are contemplating switching to dvds.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your input.
> >
> > Nancy Barton
> >
> > Patron Services
> >
> > Starke County Public Library, Knox, In.
> >
> >
> >
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FROM: Christine Kujawa <[removed]@mail.infolynx.org>
REC'D: 1/15/04, 4:52 PM

We use two parallel security strips, too. Lately I've been getting some
DVD's returned with the note "error message on patron's machine when they
try to play DVD". Then I check the DVD on our machine in the library and it
plays just fine. I'm wondering if the security strips do something with how
the DVD plays in different DVD players. Otherwise I don't know why this
would happen. Or maybe it's just coincidence/bad DVD players. Has anyone
else experienced this?

I try to buff out scratches with the SkipDr machine but like yours it only
buffs out the fine scratches.

Christine Kujawa

At 04:20 PM 1/15/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Subject: Re: RE: DVDs
>From: "Kathleen Martin" <[removed]@gvpl.ca>
>Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:06:54 -0800 (PST)
>
> I am glad to see this discussion. Our library began circulating our DVD
>collection in the fall and all problems land on my desk. We have security
>stripped the DVD's and put them out for circulation. I currently have a
>goodly number on my desk that look okay but have problems playing,
>especially skipping. I would like the library to switch to a security
>strip that sits around the core, instead of two parallel strips but they
>are supposedly less effective.
>Scratching is a problem and I have been sending some off for resurfacing
>which does work unless the scratch is very deep. I also send CD's and CD
>ROMs for resurfacing.
>
>Anyone out there security stripping? So far it seems most of the
>correspondent's are keeping items behind the desk.
>
>Kathleen Martin
>Co-ordinator of Community Services
>Greater Victoria Public Library
>Victoria, B.C.

FROM: "Karen Traynor, Chittenango" <[removed]@midyork.org>
REC'D: 1/15/04, 5:09 PM

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Christine Kujawa <[removed]@mail.infolynx.org>
>We use two parallel security strips, too. Lately I've been getting some
>DVD's returned with the note "error message on patron's machine when they
>try to play DVD". Then I check the DVD on our machine in the library and it
>plays just fine. I'm wondering if the security strips do something with how
>the DVD plays in different DVD players. Otherwise I don't know why this
>would happen. Or maybe it's just coincidence/bad DVD players. Has anyone
>else experienced this?
>

We often get DVD's returned with comments that they didn't play in the patrons player, and over half the time, the DVD's play fine when we check them. We don't use security strips (yet) so Im not sure what to attribute it to-- user ignorance?? <smile>

Karen Traynor
Sullivan Free Library
519 McDonnell Street
Chittenango, NY 13037

FROM: Darlene Peasley <[removed]@yahoo.com>
REC'D: 1/15/04, 5:40 PM

As a small library, we use a rotating collection
through our district library rather that doing much
purchasing. We were recently sent a poster to inform
our patrons that there was not an industry wide DVD
standard and that performance would vary from machine
to machine.

Darlene Peasley
Coudersport Public Library
--- "Karen Traynor, Chittenango"
<[removed]@midyork.org> wrote:
> ---------- Original Message
> ----------------------------------
> From: Christine Kujawa <[removed]@mail.infolynx.org>
> >We use two parallel security strips, too. Lately
> I've been getting some
> >DVD's returned with the note "error message on
> patron's machine when they
> >try to play DVD". Then I check the DVD on our
> machine in the library and it
> >plays just fine. I'm wondering if the security
> strips do something with how
> >the DVD plays in different DVD players. Otherwise I
> don't know why this
> >would happen. Or maybe it's just coincidence/bad
> DVD players. Has anyone
> >else experienced this?
> >
>
> We often get DVD's returned with comments that they
> didn't play in the patrons player, and over half the
> time, the DVD's play fine when we check them. We
> don't use security strips (yet) so Im not sure what
> to attribute it to-- user ignorance?? <smile>
>
> Karen Traynor
> Sullivan Free Library
> 519 McDonnell Street
> Chittenango, NY 13037
>
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FROM: "Darlene Beck" <[removed]@halifaxpubliclibraries.ca>
REC'D: 1/16/04, 8:42 AM

We also security strip our DVDs. We looked into the 3M Hub Security
marker, but at the time it was still in the testing phase, so we decided
to go with CD security which a number of libraries were successfully
using as DVD security. The Hub security markers were also not
compatible with some of our older 3M Security gates (an additional
electronic component is required)

Our circulation is high, so we aim to make circ. transactions as
quick/efficient as possible. Circ. desk space is limited in a number of
our branches. We also want to maximize the use of our Self-check
machines. So for all these reasons, lockable cases and/or dummy cases
weren't good options.

As with any Security System, some loss can be expected (system
failure/operator error, creative thieves etc.). However, you have to
weigh this against other factors such as space, long-term growth of the
collection and efficiency.

Darlene Beck (902)490-5804
Branch Manager (902)490-5747 (fax)
Spring Garden Road Memorial Public Library
Halifax Public Libraries halifaxpubliclibraries.ca
5381 Spring Garden Road
Halifax, N.S.
B3J 1E9

FROM: "Shirley Callahan" <[removed]@trails.net>
REC'D: 1/16/04, 9:09 AM

We had a several of complaints about security strips causing the DVD to
stop. The security company said they had no other complaints, but talking to
other libraries at conference, I found out this was very common. We quit
using security and put blank cases out now, and switch at circ desk.
I would like to know where to send for resurfacing, scratches seem to be our
biggest problem, and people checking them out and moving! We only allow 2
DVDs per card at a time.

Subject: Re: RE: DVDs
From: "Kathleen Martin" <[removed]@gvpl.ca>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:06:54 -0800 (PST)

I am glad to see this discussion. Our library began circulating our DVD
collection in the fall and all problems land on my desk. We have security
stripped the DVD's and put them out for circulation. I currently have a
goodly number on my desk that look okay but have problems playing,
especially skipping. I would like the library to switch to a security
strip that sits around the core, instead of two parallel strips but they
are supposedly less effective.
Scratching is a problem and I have been sending some off for resurfacing
which does work unless the scratch is very deep. I also send CD's and CD
ROMs for resurfacing.

Anyone out there security stripping? So far it seems most of the
correspondent's are keeping items behind the desk.

Kathleen Martin
Co-ordinator of Community Services
Greater Victoria Public Library
Victoria, B.C.

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FROM: "Helen Shaw" <[removed]@rcn.com>
REC'D: 1/16/04, 9:14 AM

I work at two libraries, who each have come to handle it pretty much the
same way.

Library 1 used to do the switcheroo, but now we have those magnetic security
cases that are great. They still use the switcheroo for boxed sets, such as
the first season of the Sopranos, or Buffy...we put a color copy of the DVD
box cover in a magnetic case, just for consistency in shelving.

In addition, each DVD case has one of those things that beeps if there's no
date card in the pocket and you go through the security 'ladders' by the
door.

Library 2 only recently began using the magnetic cases and seems very happy
with them. There is no security at Library 2, so the problem was much more
intense. They can still be stolen, it will just take more effort (e.g., a
hammer) to get them open.

Helen Shaw
2 libraries in Massachusetts

FROM: Karen McGrath <[removed]@yahoo.com>
REC'D: 1/16/04, 1:34 PM

We use the double magnetic security strips. We used
to do the switcheroo thing but the circ staff demanded
we change because it was too time-consuming and there
were too many errors. (They just walked off the shelf
before we did any security.) Some patrons have trouble
playing them. Just today, one told me that they tend
to stop near the end in his DVD player, so then if
they're worth finishing, he pops them into his
computer to see the end. Our central library uses the
locking cases and he says he never has problems with
seeing those DVDs to the end in his player.
Unfortunately for me, I don't have the room for those
cases in my tiny building.

We've been buying DVDs for 3 years, gradually
increasing their share in the VHS/DVD mix. At the
moment, my DVD collection is approximately 1/10th the
size of my VHS collection (in adult, we have fewer
children's DVDs so far). In December, the DVD circ
was slightly better than 1/2 of the VHS circ.

We see a lot of damage, both scratches and radial
cracks from the hub. Our central library does send
scratched DVDs out to be resurfaced for $3.50 each.

Karen McGrath
Auburn Branch Librarian
Cranston Public Library (RI)

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FROM: "Jennifer Crenshaw" <[removed]@hotmail.com>
REC'D: 1/18/04, 6:37 PM

We get ours from Video Store Shopper (1.800.325.6867) I also spelled Pak
incorrectly which I'm sure caused internet searches to go awry -- it is pac
with a "c". Sorry. Clear-vu is the manufacturer; their web site has
pictures. The cost per DVD is a little over a dollar. The locks come
separately which is great since 75% of our collection is out at any given
time; we can purchase fewer of them. The keys are about $25 if memory
serves. We tried a few of the surface security strips too, but found that
they can cause "tilt" when not centered exactly causing the DVD to scratch
as it plays in players. Our security strips are placed on the inside of the
locked cases.

We too have "phantom" reports of damage; I'm conviced they're putting them
in upside-down! I am tired of jelly-fingered children's prints all over
them as well.

Thanks to those who are allowing this very off-topic thread to continue!

Jennifer L. Crenshaw
Pickens County Library System
Easley, SC 29640

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FROM: "Pamela Koehler" <[removed]@hotmail.com>
REC'D: 1/26/04, 8:46 AM

I'm really behind on my e-mail, so this is very late and you might have
heard it before. We went through a time that we put security on the DVD's
and they came back scratched. One was checked out to one of our librarians,
and she swore she handled it correctly. Our concensus was that the security
strips somehow unbalanced the DVD's enough to scratch them. We quit putting
them on and the trouble disappeared.

Also, we continue to get note on our DVD's that they weren't able to be
watched in the the patron's player. We have concluded that this sometimes
means they were trying to view them on their computer, which seems to have
more trouble than an actual DVD player.
Pam
West Lafayette Pubic Library
West Lafayette, IN

>From: Christine Kujawa <[removed]@mail.infolynx.org>
>Reply-To: "Fiction_L" <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>To: Fiction_L <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>Subject: Re: RE: DVDs
>Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 16:45:31 -0600
>
>We use two parallel security strips, too. Lately I've been getting some
>DVD's returned with the note "error message on patron's machine when they
>try to play DVD". Then I check the DVD on our machine in the library and it
>plays just fine. I'm wondering if the security strips do something with how
>the DVD plays in different DVD players. Otherwise I don't know why this
>would happen. Or maybe it's just coincidence/bad DVD players. Has anyone
>else experienced this?
>
>I try to buff out scratches with the SkipDr machine but like yours it only
>buffs out the fine scratches.
>
>
>Christine Kujawa
>
>
>At 04:20 PM 1/15/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>>Subject: Re: RE: DVDs
>>From: "Kathleen Martin" <[removed]@gvpl.ca>
>>Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:06:54 -0800 (PST)
>>
>> I am glad to see this discussion. Our library began circulating our DVD
>>collection in the fall and all problems land on my desk. We have security
>>stripped the DVD's and put them out for circulation. I currently have a
>>goodly number on my desk that look okay but have problems playing,
>>especially skipping. I would like the library to switch to a security
>>strip that sits around the core, instead of two parallel strips but they
>>are supposedly less effective.
>>Scratching is a problem and I have been sending some off for resurfacing
>>which does work unless the scratch is very deep. I also send CD's and CD
>>ROMs for resurfacing.
>>
>>Anyone out there security stripping? So far it seems most of the
>>correspondent's are keeping items behind the desk.
>>
>>Kathleen Martin
>>Co-ordinator of Community Services
>>Greater Victoria Public Library
>>Victoria, B.C.
>
>
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