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FROM: "Bisek, Martha" <[removed]@CO.DAKOTA.MN.US>
REC'D: 6/14/03, 5:28 PM

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FROM: Molly Williams <[removed]@waterborolibrary.org>
REC'D: 6/14/03, 7:16 PM

~ Molly Wms.
--
Molly Williams, Volunteer Webmaster,
Waterboro Public Library (Maine): http://www.waterborolibrary.org/
... WPL Weblog: http://www.waterborolibrary.org/blog.htm
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Bisek, Martha wrote:
> Patron is looking for a childrens book - not a lot of info, but you may be able to help
>
> The plot is based around the idea that one "shape" character is in a one dimentional land, and through the course of the book finds out about the "third dimension" - towards the end may turn himself into a three dimentional character.
>
> There may be a sequel about the fourth dimention.
>
> Plot is similar to a book entitled The Dot and the Line.
>
> Thanks
> Martha Bisek
> Dakota County Heritage Library
> Lakeville, MN
>

FROM: Laura Pearle <[removed]@pcs-nyc.org>
REC'D: 6/15/03, 4:23 AM

This sounds like Abbot's Flatland (and the sequal Flatterland). It's
available in Dover editions.

Laura Pearle
Head Librarian
Gladys Brooks Library
Professional Children's School
[removed]@pcs-nyc.org

***
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knowledgeable people. Information only becomes knowledge in the hands of
someone who knows what to do with it." - Peter Drucker (Quoted in Industry
Week, Jan. 24, 2000)

FROM: Nancy Green <[removed]@yahoo.com>
REC'D: 6/15/03, 3:13 PM

N. Green
--- Fiction_L <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org> wrote:
> Fiction_L Digest #2938 - Sunday, June 15, 2003
>
> Re: Re: Short story "barn at Verna"
> by <[removed]@juno.com>
> childrens book - in flatland
> by "Bisek, Martha" <[removed]@CO.DAKOTA.MN.US>
> Re: childrens book - in flatland
> by "Molly Williams"
> <[removed]@waterborolibrary.org>
> Re: childrens book - in flatland
> by "Laura Pearle" <[removed]@pcs-nyc.org>
>
>
>
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>
> Subject: Re: Re: Short story "barn at Verna"
> From: <[removed]@juno.com>
> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 22:02:05 GMT
>
>
> (Dennis Lien wrote:)
>
> >"Of >Missing Persons" was *first* published in the
> March 1955 issue of GOOD
> > HOUSEKEEPING magazine; its appearance in THE THIRD
> LEVEL was just its >first appearance in a Finney
> book. (But not even its first in book >form
> generally, as it had been anthologized already in
> the 1956 >edition of SF: THE YEAR'S GREATEST SF AND
> FANTASY, ed. Judith Merrill.)
> <snip>
>
> Interesting. I doublechecked the acknowledgement
> from "About Time", and it indeed says, verbatim:
>
> '"The Third Level," "Such Interesting Neighbors",
> "Of Missing Persons," "I'm Scared", and "Second
> Chance" were originally published in The Third
> Level, Copyright 1957 by Jack Finney, copyright
> renewed 1976 by Jack Finney.'
>
> I can't get to NMU's 1955 volume of "Good
> Housekeeping" immediately, since it's in remote
> storage, but I note that Reader's Guide
> Retrospective cites "Of Missing Persons" as being on
> pp. 50-51 of the March 1955 issue. Only two pages
> for a story that occupies pages 75-93 in "About
> Time"? I realize that magazine pages are larger and
> frequently use smaller type than books, but I also
> wonder if Mr. Finney fleshed out the story when it
> was republished in book form, or undid editorial
> changes that the magazine had required, and the
> "originally published" date and 1957 copyright date
> in the acknowledgement refer to the revised version.
> Of course one could argue in any case that,
> ethically and perhaps legally, Finney should have
> recognized prior publication in a different form.
>
> Of course, we're wandering far afield from the
> original query.
>
> Bradley A. Scott
> Northern Michigan University
>
>
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>
> Subject: childrens book - in flatland
> From: "Bisek, Martha" <[removed]@CO.DAKOTA.MN.US>
> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 17:27:07 -0500
>
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>
> Subject: Re: childrens book - in flatland
> From: "Molly Williams" <[removed]@waterborolibrary.org>
> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 20:16:43 -0400
>
> Well, this seems too obvious, but it sounds like
> Flatland : A Romance of Many Dimensions by Edwin
> Abbott
>
> ~ Molly Wms.
> --
> Molly Williams, Volunteer Webmaster,
> Waterboro Public Library (Maine):
> http://www.waterborolibrary.org/
> ... WPL Weblog:
> http://www.waterborolibrary.org/blog.htm
> Bath United Church of Christ:
> http://www.faithinbath.org
>
> Bisek, Martha wrote:
> > Patron is looking for a childrens book - not a
> lot of info, but you may be able to help
> >
> > The plot is based around the idea that one
> "shape" character is in a one dimentional land, and
> through the course of the book finds out about the
> "third dimension" - towards the end may turn himself
> into a three dimentional character.
> >
> > There may be a sequel about the fourth dimention.
> >
> > Plot is similar to a book entitled The Dot and
> the Line.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Martha Bisek
> > Dakota County Heritage Library
> > Lakeville, MN
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Subject: Re: childrens book - in flatland
> From: "Laura Pearle" <[removed]@pcs-nyc.org>
> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 05:19:00 -0400
>
> At 05:27 PM 6/14/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > Patron is looking for a childrens book -
> not a lot of info, but
> > you may be able to help
> >
> > The plot is based around the idea that one
> "shape" character is
> > in a one dimentional land, and through the course
> of the book finds out
> > about the "third dimension" - towards the end may
> turn himself into a
> > three dimentional character.
> >
> > There may be a sequel about the fourth
> dimention.
> >
> > Plot is similar to a book entitled The Dot
> and the Line.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Martha Bisek
> > Dakota County Heritage Library
> > Lakeville, MN
>
> This sounds like Abbot's Flatland (and the sequal
> Flatterland). It's
> available in Dover editions.
>
>
> Laura Pearle
> Head Librarian
> Gladys Brooks Library
> Professional Children's School
> [removed]@pcs-nyc.org
>
> ***
> "There's no such thing as knowledge management;
> there are only
> knowledgeable people. Information only becomes
> knowledge in the hands of
> someone who knows what to do with it." - Peter
> Drucker (Quoted in Industry
> Week, Jan. 24, 2000)
>
>
>
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FROM: Nancy Green <[removed]@yahoo.com>
REC'D: 6/15/03, 3:14 PM

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FROM: Dennis Lien <[removed]@tc.umn.edu>
REC'D: 6/16/03, 10:22 AM

Aside from the Dover etc. editions noted, it's available online at

http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/gutbook/lookup?num=201

and at

http://www.eldritchpress.org:8080/eaa/FL.HTM

Abbott did not himself write sequels, but there have been sort-of
sequels by other hands, including SPHERELAND by Dionysus Burger;
THE PLANIVERSE by A.K. Dewdney, and SPACELAND by Rudy Rucker.

Again, none of these are children's books per se, but bright kids
would probably enjoy them.

I have a vague memory of a "flatland" episode (a chapter or two,
not the whole book) in a children's book I once read, but I'm
blanking on what it was. Possibly one of Edward Eager's?

Incidentally, your message came through here as two postings: the
one below, with a line or two of computer code at the end which I
deleted, and a second message consisting solely of computer code.
I think your email system is set up to include some sort of
attachment or graphic image to the bottom of your signature,
which doesn't come through as intended when sent to a text-based
list like Fiction-L and/or to computers that have been set up to
not accept such.

Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // [removed]@tc.umn.edu

At 05:27 PM 6/14/03 -0500, Bisek, Martha wrote:
> Patron is looking for a childrens book - not a lot of info, but you may
be able to help
>
> The plot is based around the idea that one "shape" character is in a one
dimentional land, and through the course of the book finds out about the
"third dimension" - towards the end may turn himself into a three
dimentional character.
>
> There may be a sequel about the fourth dimention.
>
> Plot is similar to a book entitled The Dot and the Line.
>
> Thanks
> Martha Bisek
> Dakota County Heritage Library
> Lakeville, MN

FROM: "Harwood, Robin" <[removed]@cslibrary.org>
REC'D: 6/17/03, 7:36 PM

Robin Harwood
Carol Stream Public Library

Bisek, Martha wrote:
Patron is looking for a childrens book - not a
lot of info, but you may be able to help
The plot is based around the idea that one
"shape" character is in a one dimentional land, and
through the course of the book finds out about the
"third dimension" - towards the end may turn himself
into a three dimentional character.
There may be a sequel about the fourth dimention.
Plot is similar to a book entitled The Dot and
the Line.

Thanks
Martha Bisek
Dakota County Heritage Library
Lakeville, MN

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