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FROM: [removed]@esls.lib.wi.us
REC'D: 3/3/03, 11:55 AM

I have a patron looking for a quote she read once. It goes something like "we can judge our society by how we treat our animals and elderly." The request was sitting on my desk when I came in and I suspect it may be Kant's "We can judge the heart of a man by his treatmentof animals" but I was hoping someone else might have another idea.

Thanks

FROM: Dennis Lien <[removed]@tc.umn.edu>
REC'D: 3/3/03, 2:34 PM

At 11:44 AM 3/3/03 -0600, you wrote:
>I have a patron looking for a quote she read once. It goes something like
"we can judge our society by how we treat our animals and elderly." The
request was sitting on my desk when I came in and I suspect it may be
Kant's "We can judge the heart of a man by his treatmentof animals" but I
was hoping someone else might have another idea.
>

Maybe this, from the archives of Stumpers-L back in 1996?

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Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 10:29:56 -0400
From: [removed]@gov.ns.ca
To: [removed]@cleveland.Freenet.Edu, [removed]@CRF.CUIS.EDU
Subject: %Quote info (Measure of society)

Terry, I found a reasonable likeness of this quote as follows:

" The test of a civilization is in the way that it cares for its helpless
members"
Pearl Buck. "My Several Worlds" 1954

Source: The Beacon Book of Quotations by Women
compiled by Rosalie Maggio
Boston. Beacon Pr. 1992

I also checked M. Mead quotes in that volume, and none resembled your
patron's quotation.

HTH
Cheers!
Chris
__________________________
Christine Corston
Nova Scotia Womens Directorate, Department of Human Resources
Halifax, NS, Canada: [removed]@gov.ns.ca Fax: (902) 424-0638
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forwarded by Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // [removed]@tc.umn.edu

FROM: "Marla" <[removed]@mtlib.org>
REC'D: 3/3/03, 2:45 PM

I don't know if this will be of any help. I tried a (I can't remember the
term --) "dirty dog" search.... Came up with the site listed below:
http://stars.metawire.com/features/quote.htm
And came up with this quote (which is listed as "unknown"). Have no
idea how reliable this site is....
"You can tell a great deal about a society by the way they treat their
elderly, their prisoners and their pets." Unknown
Good luck! BYE!
Marla/Great Falls Public Library
301 2nd Ave N
Great Falls MT 59401
[removed]@mtlib.org

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For reason will convince us that what is necessary to be
performed in the heat of action should constantly be
practised in the leisure of peace.
Vegetius, EPITOMA REI MILITARIS

FROM: "Thelma Stone" <[removed]@fortworthlibrary.org>
REC'D: 3/3/03, 3:50 PM

A Hubert H. Humphrey quote is similar to Buck's: "It was once said that the
moral test of government is how that government treats those who are in the
dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the
elderly; and those who are in the shadows of life--the sick, the needy and
the handicapped."
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Subject: Society quote

> I have a patron looking for a quote she read once. It goes something like
"we can judge our society by how we treat our animals and elderly." The
request was sitting on my desk when I came in and I suspect it may be Kant's
"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatmentof animals" but I was
hoping someone else might have another idea.
>
>
> Thanks
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FROM: [removed]@uiuc.edu
REC'D: 3/3/03, 4:00 PM

I'm sure someone has already handled this query, but just in
case...I believe the quote being referenced is from Mahatma
Gandhi: "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can
be judged by the way it's animals are treated." This quote
has been used many times in the promotion of vegetarian
lifestyles (along with many other quotes from Mahatma Gandhi).
Hope this helps,
Greg Schwartz
MSLIS Student - UIUC

>Subject: Society quote
>From: <[removed]@esls.lib.wi.us>
>Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 11:44:54 -0600

>I have a patron looking for a quote she read once. It goes
>something like "we can judge our society by how we treat our
>animals and elderly." The request was sitting on my desk
>when I came in and I suspect it may be Kant's "We can judge
>the heart of a man by his treatmentof animals" but I was
>hoping someone else might have another idea.

Thanks

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