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FROM: mh reader <[removed]@yahoo.ca>
REC'D: 1/11/05, 11:03 AM

Good morning!
Since I tell my patrons there is no such thing as a
stupid question, I will go ahead and ask one myself.
What the heck is a Loop Group? I am about half way
through Larry MCMurtry's newest novel, and I still
don't know what it is. I did a quick Google search on
the term and of course came up with a hundred sites
all selling the novel, but no clear definition of what
the heck is is! Please help, I cannot read another
page not knowing what the character is talking about.
Confused in Belleville
Belleville Public Library
Information Services
Mary Hartling
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FROM: "Heraty, Ming" <[removed]@ahml.info>
REC'D: 1/11/05, 11:47 AM

Here is information from the Chicago Tribune Book Review of January 2nd
2005.

"Not only was Maggie, a 60-year-old widow, born and raised in
Tinseltown, but she's one of the unsung army of people who work in the
movie industry's less-visible crannies. She runs a loop group, a
half-dozen-odd fellows whose job, during a film's postproduction, is to
supply non-language-specific utterances.

The loop group--why the author chose this singularly uneuphonious phrase
as a title escapes me--gathers in the studio at microphones as a scene
of, say, invading Indians rolls. Their job is to whoop like Indians and
shriek like frightened settlers."

HTH--Ming

M. Ming Heraty
Head, Catalog and Internet Services
Arlington Heights Memorial Library
Arlington Heights IL 60004
847.870.3669 (phone)
847.506.2650 (fax)
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FROM: Candice Michalik <[removed]@yahoo.com>
REC'D: 1/11/05, 12:28 PM

In an interview in Publisher's Weekly on Nov. 8, 2004
Larry McMurtry had this to say:

PW: What was the inspiration for Loop Group [reviewed
on page 35]?

Larry McMurtry: As executive producers of several
action western miniseries [e.g., Lonesome Dove], my
writing partner Diana Ossana and I have worked with
loop groups. They are the sound effects people in
movies who put in the non-human sounds, the grunts and
groans. Anyone who makes an action movie works with
them; it's the last thing you do. The groups seemed
like a good Hollywood subject, a way to lead into the
personal story, about the friendship between two
women, which is what I'm really interested in.

Hope this helps!

=====
Candice Michalik
Reference Librarian
Lynchburg Public Library
Lynchburg, VA
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FROM: "Diane Brown" <[removed]@scld.org>
REC'D: 1/11/05, 12:55 PM

Looking at the blurb available through our catalog, I'm guessing it's a
/group/ of people from the main character's company, Prime /Loops/. So, the
"Loop Group."

--Diane
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Collection Services Librarian
Spokane County Library District
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(509) 924-4122 ext. 237

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-----Original Message-----
From: [removed]@maillist.webrary.org [[removed]@maillist.webrary.org]
On Behalf Of mh reader

Good morning!
Since I tell my patrons there is no such thing as a
stupid question, I will go ahead and ask one myself.
What the heck is a Loop Group? <snip> Please help, I cannot read another
page not knowing what the character is talking about.
Confused in Belleville
Belleville Public Library
Information Services
Mary Hartling
[removed]@yahoo.com

FROM: Dennis Lien <[removed]@tc.umn.edu>
REC'D: 1/11/05, 2:01 PM

At 11:10 AM 1/11/2005, you wrote:
>Here is information from the Chicago Tribune Book Review of January 2nd
>2005.
>
>"Not only was Maggie, a 60-year-old widow, born and raised in
>Tinseltown, but she's one of the unsung army of people who work in the
>movie industry's less-visible crannies. She runs a loop group, a
>half-dozen-odd fellows whose job, during a film's postproduction, is to
>supply non-language-specific utterances.
>
>The loop group--why the author chose this singularly uneuphonious phrase
>as a title escapes me--gathers in the studio at microphones as a scene
>of, say, invading Indians rolls. Their job is to whoop like Indians and
>shriek like frightened settlers."
>
>HTH--Ming
>
>M. Ming Heraty

My ex-wife is a looper; she usually refers to this as a "looping group"
(rather than just "loop"), but I don't know if that's a standard variant
or just her habit. (Well, now I do; I just googled and "loop group"
shows over 22,000 hits to a mere 285 for "looping group.")

Besides shrieking and generalmurmurgeneralmurmuring as a group, individual
loopers might also be used for miscellaneous individual minor/background voices
in a movie or TV show. Sometimes this involves specialist vocabulary
knowledge, so that looper(s) may be told in advance that they will be
needed as voices coming over a police radio or aircraft control tower or
the like, and they sometimes need to do research to get not only accents
and speech patterns right but the technical terminology as well; I've been
called in by Doris to lend my alleged librarianish skills to finding that
sort of thing more than once. Often this involves cold calling people really
doing the sort of job one is to emulate. After 9/11, a lot of police,
emergency response teams, aircraft controllers and the like have understandably
become far less willing to discuss their daily routines with a stranger on
the other end of a telephone line, though.

Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // [removed]@tc.umn.edu

FROM: "Elizabeth Staley" <[removed]@mail.tscpl.org>
REC'D: 1/11/05, 4:09 PM

-----Original Message-----
From: [removed]@maillist.webrary.org
[[removed]@maillist.webrary.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Lien
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:08 PM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: RE: What the heck is a Loop Group?

At 11:10 AM 1/11/2005, you wrote:
>Here is information from the Chicago Tribune Book Review of January 2nd
>2005.
>
>"Not only was Maggie, a 60-year-old widow, born and raised in
>Tinseltown, but she's one of the unsung army of people who work in the
>movie industry's less-visible crannies. She runs a loop group, a
>half-dozen-odd fellows whose job, during a film's postproduction, is to
>supply non-language-specific utterances.
>
>The loop group--why the author chose this singularly uneuphonious
phrase
>as a title escapes me--gathers in the studio at microphones as a scene
>of, say, invading Indians rolls. Their job is to whoop like Indians and
>shriek like frightened settlers."
>
>HTH--Ming
>
>M. Ming Heraty

My ex-wife is a looper; she usually refers to this as a "looping group"
(rather than just "loop"), but I don't know if that's a standard variant
or just her habit. (Well, now I do; I just googled and "loop group"
shows over 22,000 hits to a mere 285 for "looping group.")

Besides shrieking and generalmurmurgeneralmurmuring as a group,
individual
loopers might also be used for miscellaneous individual minor/background
voices
in a movie or TV show. Sometimes this involves specialist vocabulary
knowledge, so that looper(s) may be told in advance that they will be
needed as voices coming over a police radio or aircraft control tower or
the like, and they sometimes need to do research to get not only accents
and speech patterns right but the technical terminology as well; I've
been
called in by Doris to lend my alleged librarianish skills to finding
that
sort of thing more than once. Often this involves cold calling people
really
doing the sort of job one is to emulate. After 9/11, a lot of police,
emergency response teams, aircraft controllers and the like have
understandably
become far less willing to discuss their daily routines with a stranger
on
the other end of a telephone line, though.

Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // [removed]@tc.umn.edu

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