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FROM: "Bryn Wittmayer" <[removed]@cityofsalem.net>
REC'D: 12/3/04, 3:28 PM
If there aren't any, then it's time to make one! I hoping for some
books that combine Pratchett's sense of humor along with fantastic
elements (the social satire isn't as important). If we end of getting
a list of authors like Pratchett, in addition to links to pre-existing
readalike lists, I'll compile and post.
Thanks.
Bryn E. Wittmayer
Salem Public Library
Bookmobile
503-588-6163
[removed]@cityofsalem.net
"I sometimes fear that this business of life getting in the way of my
reading will drive me slowly insane." Martha C. Lawrence
FROM: "Sprague, Lisa" <[removed]@enfield.org>
REC'D: 12/3/04, 3:40 PM
-----Original Message-----
From: Bryn Wittmayer [[removed]@cityofsalem.net]
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 4:20 PM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: Terry Pratchett readalikes
I know there are lots of Terry Pratchett fans on this list (OOK!) and I'm
hoping some of you can help me. Has anyone complied an "if you like Terry
Pratchett" list? I can't find one; every time he appears on a readalike
list it is one for another author. Links to preexisting lists would be
great.
If there aren't any, then it's time to make one! I hoping for some books
that combine Pratchett's sense of humor along with fantastic elements (the
social satire isn't as important). If we end of getting a list of authors
like Pratchett, in addition to links to pre-existing readalike lists, I'll
compile and post.
Thanks.
Bryn E. Wittmayer
Salem Public Library
Bookmobile
503-588-6163
[removed]@cityofsalem.net
"I sometimes fear that this business of life getting in the way of my
reading will drive me slowly insane." Martha C. Lawrence
FROM: Barry Trott <[removed]@mail.wrl.org>
REC'D: 12/3/04, 3:52 PM
Here's an annotated list of a few Pratchett readalikes from the NoveList
author readalikes collection.
Barry
Fans who enjoy Pratchett's humor and social satire will probably also
enjoy the Science Fiction of Douglas Adams. The Hitchhiker series follows
the adventures and exploits of Arthur Dent as he travels through the
universe with a variety of unusual companions, human and alien. Like
Pratchett, Adams makes creative use of the English language, and his
satire spares no sacred cows. Start with The Hitchhiker's Guide to the
Galaxy (1979).
Another Science Fiction/Fantasy humorist that Pratchett fans might enjoy
is Paul Di Filippo. Working primarily in the short story vein, Di Filippo
writes humorous pieces, often set in alternative universes. His characters
are wonderfully off-beat, and his stories are full of allusions to
contemporary culture, especially to pop music and literature. A good place
to start is his story collection Fractal Paisleys (1997).
Pratchett readers who particularly enjoy the City Watch sub-series will be
delighted to discover Jasper Fforde's Thursday Next titles. Beginning with
The Eyre Affair (2002) Fforde's heroine Thursday Next works for the
Literary Detective unit of Special Operations in an alternative England in
the 1980s. The book is filled with word play and literary allusions, and
Fforde's heroine would be at home in Sam Vimes' City Watch. Those who are
fond of Pratchett's cultural critiques and barbs towards contemporary
society will find much to enjoy in Fforde's novel.
Eric Flint's The Philosophical Strangler (2001) has a similar appeal to
much of Pratchett's work. Flint's story of a thoughtful assassin and his
sidekick satirizes every thing from Dante's Inferno to role-playing games.
Adventures befall the heroes at every turn, and they encounter wizards and
witches, dwarves and trolls, and thieves and swordsmen (and women). Flint
draws on various mythologies -- Greek, Norse, etc. -- for his inspiration,
though like Pratchett he twists the stories as needed. Flint's Fantasy
also contains more direct sexual references than does Pratchett's.
Another writer who mixes humor, Fantasy, and satire in a way that might
appeal to Pratchett fans is Tom Holt. In works such as Who's Afraid of
Beowulf (1988) and Snow White and the Seven Samurai (1999), Holt uses
fairy tales and mythology as the starting-off point for his tales. Like
Pratchett's, Holt's stories move quickly with lots of shifting between
characters and locations. The novels are full of puns and other word-play,
and Holt uses the fantastical settings to comment on elements of
contemporary society.
Finally, in his review of Pratchett's 2002 Discworld novel Night Watch,
Washington Post critic Michael Dirda says that "In his range of invented
characters, his adroit storytelling, and his clear-eyed acceptance of
humankind's foibles, [Pratchett] reminds me of no one in English
literature so much as Geoffrey Chaucer." So a trip back to The Canterbury
Tales may be just the thing for Pratchett fans.
*******************************************************************************
Barry Trott 7770 Croaker Rd.
Adult Services Director Williamsburg VA 23188
Williamsburg Regional Library Phone: 757-259-4053
http://www.wrl.org/bookweb FAX: 757-259-4079
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On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, Bryn Wittmayer wrote:
> I know there are lots of Terry Pratchett fans on this list (OOK!) and
> I'm hoping some of you can help me. Has anyone complied an "if you like
> Terry Pratchett" list? I can't find one; every time he appears on a
> readalike list it is one for another author. Links to preexisting lists
> would be great.
>
> If there aren't any, then it's time to make one! I hoping for some
> books that combine Pratchett's sense of humor along with fantastic
> elements (the social satire isn't as important). If we end of getting
> a list of authors like Pratchett, in addition to links to pre-existing
> readalike lists, I'll compile and post.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bryn E. Wittmayer
> Salem Public Library
> Bookmobile
> 503-588-6163
> [removed]@cityofsalem.net
>
> "I sometimes fear that this business of life getting in the way of my
> reading will drive me slowly insane." Martha C. Lawrence
> ......................................................................
> Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
> Everything Fiction_L: http://fictionl.webrary.org
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FROM: "Marsha Valance" <[removed]@mpl.org>
REC'D: 12/3/04, 3:58 PM
Coworkers suggest Piers Anthony's early Xanth (before the jokes got
stale), Esther Friesner, Craig Shaw Gardner, & Christopher Stasheff. I
don't agree, but I'm tossing them in for your consideration.
Marsha Valance
Management Librarian
Wisconsin Regional Library f/t Blind & Physically Handicapped
813 West Wells St.
Milwaukee, WI 53233-1436
1.800.242.8822 [in-state]
<[removed]@mpl.org>
>>> [removed]@cityofsalem.net 12/3/2004 3:19:47 PM >>>
I know there are lots of Terry Pratchett fans on this list (OOK!) and
I'm hoping some of you can help me. Has anyone complied an "if you
like
Terry Pratchett" list? I can't find one; every time he appears on a
readalike list it is one for another author. Links to preexisting
lists
would be great.
If there aren't any, then it's time to make one! I hoping for some
books that combine Pratchett's sense of humor along with fantastic
elements (the social satire isn't as important). If we end of
getting
a list of authors like Pratchett, in addition to links to pre-existing
readalike lists, I'll compile and post.
Thanks.
Bryn E. Wittmayer
Salem Public Library
Bookmobile
503-588-6163
[removed]@cityofsalem.net
"I sometimes fear that this business of life getting in the way of my
reading will drive me slowly insane." Martha C. Lawrence
FROM: Diana Parker <[removed]@yahoo.com>
REC'D: 12/3/04, 4:54 PM
Diana Parker
Stow-Munroe Falls Public Library
--- Marsha Valance <[removed]@mpl.org> wrote:
> IMHO, the only people who come close to
> Pratchett's combination of humor
> with fantastic elements are Tom Holt (Expecting
> Someone Taller) & Robert
> Rankin (The Hollow Chocolate Bunnies of the
> Apocalypse).
>
> Coworkers suggest Piers Anthony's early Xanth
> (before the jokes got
> stale), Esther Friesner, Craig Shaw Gardner, &
> Christopher Stasheff. I
> don't agree, but I'm tossing them in for your
> consideration.
>
>
> Marsha Valance
> Management Librarian
> Wisconsin Regional Library f/t Blind &
> Physically Handicapped
> 813 West Wells St.
> Milwaukee, WI 53233-1436
> 1.800.242.8822 [in-state]
> <[removed]@mpl.org>
>
> >>> [removed]@cityofsalem.net 12/3/2004
> 3:19:47 PM >>>
> I know there are lots of Terry Pratchett fans
> on this list (OOK!) and
> I'm hoping some of you can help me. Has anyone
> complied an "if you
> like
> Terry Pratchett" list? I can't find one; every
> time he appears on a
> readalike list it is one for another author.
> Links to preexisting
> lists
> would be great.
>
> If there aren't any, then it's time to make
> one! I hoping for some
> books that combine Pratchett's sense of humor
> along with fantastic
> elements (the social satire isn't as
> important). If we end of
> getting
> a list of authors like Pratchett, in addition
> to links to pre-existing
> readalike lists, I'll compile and post.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bryn E. Wittmayer
> Salem Public Library
> Bookmobile
> 503-588-6163
> [removed]@cityofsalem.net
>
> "I sometimes fear that this business of life
> getting in the way of my
> reading will drive me slowly insane." Martha C.
> Lawrence
>
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FROM: Dennis Lien <[removed]@tc.umn.edu>
REC'D: 12/3/04, 5:55 PM
I've read them and recommend them. They don't remind me
a *lot* of Pratchett, but if you squint a bit...
(But then, I don't think anyone is quite like Pratchett,
though Tom Holt and Robert Rankin, among others, are
aiming for the same general niche. Andrew Harman is
apparently also mining the same field, but I've not read
him and reviews I've seen haven't encouraged me to do so.)
Hughart apparently felt himself ill-used by his publisher,
and, not needing the money, decided to just quit writing--
at least that's what I've heard. A sad loss.
The three books have been reprinted in trade pb; currently
o.p. but new printing apparently planned:
http://www.sfbooks.com/html_files/bo_exclusives.html
(If someone wants and can't wait, I believe both of the
sf speciality stores here have copies in stock: Uncle
Hugo's and DreamHaven; both do mail order. Standard
disclaimer: I am not affiliated etc. etc.)
One might also look at some of Robert Sheckley's earlier
novels (especially MINDSWAP and DIMENSION OF MIRACLES).
Further afield but maybe worth a mention: Harry Harrison's
BILL THE GALACTIC HERO; John Barnes' ONE FOR THE MORNING
GLORY; maybe John Sladek.
Pratchett fans in the midwest might want to know that he's
going to be guest of honor at local sf convention Minicon
Easter weekend:
http://www.mnstf.org/minicon/minicon40/
(semi-standard disclaimer: I am somewhat affiliated. . .
but have no financial etc. interest in promoting same)
Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // [removed]@tc.umn.edu
FROM: "Warner, Deb" <[removed]@co.durham.nc.us>
REC'D: 12/4/04, 8:51 AM
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Lien [[removed]@tc.umn.edu]
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 6:22 PM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: Re: Terry Pratchett readalikes
At 02:43 PM 12/3/2004, you wrote:
>Has anybody other than me ever read Barry
>Hughart's "Master Li" novels? There were only
>three: _Bridge of Birds_, _The Story of the
>Stone_ and _Eight Skilled Gentlemen_. They had
>some of the sense of events spiraling wildly out
>of control, offbeat humor, etc. They're set in
>"the ancient China that never was".
>
>Diana Parker
>Stow-Munroe Falls Public Library
I've read them and recommend them. They don't remind me
a *lot* of Pratchett, but if you squint a bit...
(But then, I don't think anyone is quite like Pratchett,
though Tom Holt and Robert Rankin, among others, are
aiming for the same general niche. Andrew Harman is
apparently also mining the same field, but I've not read
him and reviews I've seen haven't encouraged me to do so.)
Hughart apparently felt himself ill-used by his publisher,
and, not needing the money, decided to just quit writing--
at least that's what I've heard. A sad loss.
The three books have been reprinted in trade pb; currently
o.p. but new printing apparently planned:
http://www.sfbooks.com/html_files/bo_exclusives.html
(If someone wants and can't wait, I believe both of the
sf speciality stores here have copies in stock: Uncle
Hugo's and DreamHaven; both do mail order. Standard
disclaimer: I am not affiliated etc. etc.)
One might also look at some of Robert Sheckley's earlier
novels (especially MINDSWAP and DIMENSION OF MIRACLES).
Further afield but maybe worth a mention: Harry Harrison's
BILL THE GALACTIC HERO; John Barnes' ONE FOR THE MORNING
GLORY; maybe John Sladek.
Pratchett fans in the midwest might want to know that he's
going to be guest of honor at local sf convention Minicon
Easter weekend:
http://www.mnstf.org/minicon/minicon40/
(semi-standard disclaimer: I am somewhat affiliated. . .
but have no financial etc. interest in promoting same)
Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // [removed]@tc.umn.edu
FROM: "christine jeffords" <[removed]@hotmail.com>
REC'D: 12/4/04, 9:20 AM
FROM: "christine jeffords" <[removed]@hotmail.com>
REC'D: 12/4/04, 9:20 AM
>From: Dennis Lien <[removed]@tc.umn.edu>
>Reply-To: "Fiction_L" <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>To: Fiction_L <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>Subject: Re: Terry Pratchett readalikes
>Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 17:22:22 -0600
>
>
>(If someone wants and can't wait, I believe both of the
>sf speciality stores here have copies in stock: Uncle
>Hugo's and DreamHaven; both do mail order. Standard
>disclaimer: I am not affiliated etc. etc.)
>
>
And in case you wonder, their websites are here:
http://www.unclehugo.com/prod/index.shtml
http://www.dreamhavenbooks.com/
And *I'm" not affiliated either--or with ABEBooks or AddAll.com, which I
would also recommend.
FROM: Melissa Groveman <[removed]@gmail.com>
REC'D: 12/6/04, 10:21 AM
http://www.globalnetworkofdreams.com/books/related/terry+pratchett.php
I find the map a little weird - it shows similarities among authors as
distances between their names, and the names move around a bit. You
need to find Pratchett's name and then look at the authors around it.
I think the map might be useful though. I agree with it that Douglas
Adams and to a lesser extent David Eddings are similar.
- Melissa Groveman
Greene County Public Library, Xenia, OH
On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 13:19:47 -0800, Bryn Wittmayer
<[removed]@cityofsalem.net> wrote:
> I know there are lots of Terry Pratchett fans on this list (OOK!) and
> I'm hoping some of you can help me. Has anyone complied an "if you like
> Terry Pratchett" list? I can't find one; every time he appears on a
> readalike list it is one for another author. Links to preexisting lists
> would be great.
>
> If there aren't any, then it's time to make one! I hoping for some
> books that combine Pratchett's sense of humor along with fantastic
> elements (the social satire isn't as important). If we end of getting
> a list of authors like Pratchett, in addition to links to pre-existing
> readalike lists, I'll compile and post.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bryn E. Wittmayer
> Salem Public Library
> Bookmobile
> 503-588-6163
> [removed]@cityofsalem.net
>
> "I sometimes fear that this business of life getting in the way of my
> reading will drive me slowly insane." Martha C. Lawrence
> ......................................................................
> Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
> Everything Fiction_L: http://fictionl.webrary.org
>
>
FROM: Dennis Lien <[removed]@tc.umn.edu>
REC'D: 12/6/04, 11:25 AM
On the other hand--
Two authors whose sense of humor is very much like Pratchett's, to
my mind, are Dave Langford and Will Cuppy. The kicker is that in
the case of Langford (who has worked with Pratchett on many
projects such as THE DISCWORLD COMPANION and the UNSEEN UNIVERSITY
CHALLENGE quiz books), that humor comes out much more in his
nonfiction (articles, book reviews) and parodies than in his own
fiction. (Partial exceptions for his first novel, THE LEAKY
ESTABLISHMENT, and some short stories; his sf novel THE SPACE EATER
is atypically nonhumorous however.)
Dave's homepage is at
http://www.ansible.co.uk/index.html
including a link to a lot of his nonfiction pieces online at
http://www.ansible.co.uk/writing/index.html
Will Cuppy (1994-1949) didn't even write fiction, let alone
fantasy fiction, but the cheerfully cynical worldview obvious
in his strange nonfiction titles like HOW TO ATTRACT THE
WOMBAT (natural history) and THE DECLINE AND FALL OF PRACTICALLY
EVERYBODY (history) seems very Pratchettian to me (not to
mention his use of deflating footnotes). I'd not be surprised
to learn that Pratchett read Cuppy early...
http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/cuppy.htm
And mention of THE DECLINE AND FALL OF PRATCIALLY EVERYBODY
reminds me of the British history-slightly-askew classic
1066 AND ALL THAT by Sellar and Yeatman, which should go on
any list of Pratchettian humor (though again it's nonfiction--
well, sort of).
Neil Gaiman's short story "Shoggoth's Old Peculiar" reminds
me of Pratchett also.
Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // [removed]@tc.umn.edu
FROM: "Denese Young" <[removed]@imail.slcl.lib.mo.us>
REC'D: 12/6/04, 2:09 PM
>>>Diana Parker
>>>Stow-Munroe Falls Public Library
I LOVE Master Li. Terry Pratchett is my favorite author, but the Hughart books have always ranked in my top ten. I've always wanted just *one* more. At least Pterry keeps writing. :)
--
Denese Young
Florissant Valley Branch
St. Louis County Library
…Upon the female mind especially does the habit of novel reading lead to most injurious results, and to this source may be fairly traced a large proportion of the domestic wretchedness which now abounds." --An 1882 speech on the evils of the day
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FROM: "christine jeffords" <[removed]@hotmail.com>
REC'D: 12/7/04, 5:09 PM
>From: Dennis Lien <[removed]@tc.umn.edu>
>Reply-To: "Fiction_L" <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>To: Fiction_L <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>Subject: Re: Terry Pratchett readalikes
>Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 10:58:34 -0600
>
>Will Cuppy (1994-1949)... 1066 AND ALL THAT by Sellar and Yeatman...
Anyone who likes those should also enjoy the various books of Richard
Armour, such as "It All Started With Columbus," "It All Started With Eve,"
etc.
FROM: "Warner, Deb" <[removed]@co.durham.nc.us>
REC'D: 12/8/04, 12:14 PM
>From: Dennis Lien <[removed]@tc.umn.edu>
>Reply-To: "Fiction_L" <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>To: Fiction_L <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>Subject: Re: Terry Pratchett readalikes
>Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 10:58:34 -0600
>
>Will Cuppy (1994-1949)... 1066 AND ALL THAT by Sellar and Yeatman...
Anyone who likes those should also enjoy the various books of Richard
Armour, such as "It All Started With Columbus," "It All Started With Eve,"
etc.
FROM: "Colcord, Lisa" <[removed]@GLENDALEAZ.com>
REC'D: 12/8/04, 4:57 PM
Lisa
Lisa Colcord
Outreach Librarian
Glendale Public Library
Glendale, Az
Petulia liked animals, especially pigs, because they had wobbly noses.
Tiffany quite liked animals too, but no one except other animals liked
animals as much as Petulia.
Terry Pratchett
A Hat Full of Sky
page 102
-----Original Message-----
From: [removed]@maillist.webrary.org
[[removed]@maillist.webrary.org] On Behalf Of Warner, Deb
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 10:26 AM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: RE: Terry Pratchett readalikes
Older titles that are still quite funny are the collaborations between
Fletcher Pratt and l. Sprague DeCamp, especially THE LAND OF UNREASON
and THE COMPLEAT ENCHANTER. Now you can get THE COMPLETE COMPLEAT
ENCHANTER, which adds all their sequels that send Harold Shea to
literary and mythical worlds. Others have written additional sequels
but they are by no means as good.
Aldo good: Mary Brown PIGS DON'T FLY, DRAGONNE'S EG, MASTER OF MANY
TREASURES
Barry Longyear THE GODBOX (may be OP unfortunately)
-----Original Message-----
From: christine jeffords [[removed]@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 4:21 PM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: Re: Terry Pratchett readalikes
>From: Dennis Lien <[removed]@tc.umn.edu>
>Reply-To: "Fiction_L" <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>To: Fiction_L <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>Subject: Re: Terry Pratchett readalikes
>Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 10:58:34 -0600
>
>Will Cuppy (1994-1949)... 1066 AND ALL THAT by Sellar and Yeatman...
Anyone who likes those should also enjoy the various books of Richard
Armour, such as "It All Started With Columbus," "It All Started With
Eve,"
etc.
FROM: "Bryn Wittmayer" <[removed]@cityofsalem.net>
REC'D: 12/10/04, 12:11 PM
Websites:
www.cool-reads.co.uk
http://www.globalnetworkofdreams.com/books/related/terry+pratchett.php
http://www.vpl.ca/branches/LibrarySquare/prl/bookmarks/pratchett.html
Bryn E. Wittmayer
Salem Public Library
Bookmobile
503-588-6163
[removed]@cityofsalem.net
"I sometimes fear that this business of life getting in the way of my
reading will drive me slowly insane." Martha C. Lawrence
FROM: "christine jeffords" <[removed]@hotmail.com>
REC'D: 12/16/04, 10:25 AM
FROM: "Warner, Deb" <[removed]@co.durham.nc.us>
REC'D: 12/17/04, 6:43 AM
-----Original Message-----
From: christine jeffords [[removed]@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 11:06 AM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: RE: Terry Pratchett readalikes
Of course there's always Piers Anthony and Spider Robinson, though you have
to have a high tolerance for puns.
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