Novels with footnotes
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FROM: "Bergstrom, Jennifer" <[removed]@sdcounty.ca.gov>
REC'D: 12/7/04, 1:22 PM
Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace is another great novel with footnotes (some of them several pages long).
Can anyone think of any others? I'll compile a list.
Jenne Bergstrom
Reference and Young Adult Librarian
San Diego County Library, El Cajon Branch
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From: [removed]@maillist.webrary.org
[[removed]@maillist.webrary.org]On Behalf Of Jessica Moyer
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 6:19 AM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: RE: Best Fiction of Late 2003 and 2004
>Clarke, Susanna
>Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell
>I just like novels with footnotes.
Then try the Bartimeaus trilogy (Amulet of Samarkand and the Golem's
Eye) by Jonathon Stroud, Bartimeaus uses footnotes in his narration and
I liked it better than Jonathon Strange and Mr. Norrell, which I thought
was, well, strange.
Jessica E. Moyer
Director of Academic Resources
Richland Community College, Learning Resources Center
FROM: "Karen Traynor, Chittenango" <[removed]@midyork.org>
REC'D: 12/7/04, 2:24 PM
Karen Traynor
Sullivan Free Library
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Chittenango, NY 13037
FROM: "Carlisle K. Webber" <[removed]@main.morris.org>
REC'D: 12/7/04, 2:30 PM
-Carlie Webber
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Bergstrom, Jennifer wrote:
>I did read the Amulet of Samarkand (what a great title) and thought the footnotes were the best part! Otherwise I thought it was cute but a little dull. To each her own...
>
>Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace is another great novel with footnotes (some of them several pages long).
>
>Can anyone think of any others? I'll compile a list.
>
>
>Jenne Bergstrom
>Reference and Young Adult Librarian
>San Diego County Library, El Cajon Branch
>
>
>
>
FROM: "Dillie, Thomas" <[removed]@gcpl.lib.oh.us>
REC'D: 12/7/04, 2:41 PM
"'Under consideration' means we've lost the file. 'Under active consideration' means we're trying to find it."
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From: [removed]@maillist.webrary.org
[[removed]@maillist.webrary.org]On Behalf Of Bergstrom, Jennifer
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 1:39 PM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: Novels with footnotes
I did read the Amulet of Samarkand (what a great title) and thought the footnotes were the best part! Otherwise I thought it was cute but a little dull. To each her own...
Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace is another great novel with footnotes (some of them several pages long).
Can anyone think of any others? I'll compile a list.
Jenne Bergstrom
Reference and Young Adult Librarian
San Diego County Library, El Cajon Branch
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From: [removed]@maillist.webrary.org
[[removed]@maillist.webrary.org]On Behalf Of Jessica Moyer
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 6:19 AM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: RE: Best Fiction of Late 2003 and 2004
>Clarke, Susanna
>Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell
>I just like novels with footnotes.
Then try the Bartimeaus trilogy (Amulet of Samarkand and the Golem's
Eye) by Jonathon Stroud, Bartimeaus uses footnotes in his narration and
I liked it better than Jonathon Strange and Mr. Norrell, which I thought
was, well, strange.
Jessica E. Moyer
Director of Academic Resources
Richland Community College, Learning Resources Center
FROM: "Marx, Charleen, JCL" <[removed]@jocolibrary.org>
REC'D: 12/7/04, 2:47 PM
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From: [removed]@maillist.webrary.org on behalf of Bergstrom, Jennifer
Sent: Tue 12/7/2004 12:39 PM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: Novels with footnotes
I did read the Amulet of Samarkand (what a great title) and thought the footnotes were the best part! Otherwise I thought it was cute but a little dull. To each her own...
Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace is another great novel with footnotes (some of them several pages long).
Can anyone think of any others? I'll compile a list.
Jenne Bergstrom
Reference and Young Adult Librarian
San Diego County Library, El Cajon Branch
-----Original Message-----
From: [removed]@maillist.webrary.org
[[removed]@maillist.webrary.org]On Behalf Of Jessica Moyer
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 6:19 AM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: RE: Best Fiction of Late 2003 and 2004
>Clarke, Susanna
>Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell
>I just like novels with footnotes.
Then try the Bartimeaus trilogy (Amulet of Samarkand and the Golem's
Eye) by Jonathon Stroud, Bartimeaus uses footnotes in his narration and
I liked it better than Jonathon Strange and Mr. Norrell, which I thought
was, well, strange.
Jessica E. Moyer
Director of Academic Resources
Richland Community College, Learning Resources Center
FROM: "Sprague, Lisa" <[removed]@enfield.org>
REC'D: 12/7/04, 3:04 PM
-----Original Message-----
From: Bergstrom, Jennifer [mailto:Jennifer.Bergstrom@sdcounty.ca.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 1:39 PM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: Novels with footnotes
I did read the Amulet of Samarkand (what a great title) and thought the
footnotes were the best part! Otherwise I thought it was cute but a little
dull. To each her own...
Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace is another great novel with footnotes
(some of them several pages long).
Can anyone think of any others? I'll compile a list.
Jenne Bergstrom
Reference and Young Adult Librarian
San Diego County Library, El Cajon Branch
-----Original Message-----
From: [removed]@maillist.webrary.org
[[removed]@maillist.webrary.org]On Behalf Of Jessica Moyer
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 6:19 AM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: RE: Best Fiction of Late 2003 and 2004
>Clarke, Susanna
>Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell
>I just like novels with footnotes.
Then try the Bartimeaus trilogy (Amulet of Samarkand and the Golem's
Eye) by Jonathon Stroud, Bartimeaus uses footnotes in his narration and I
liked it better than Jonathon Strange and Mr. Norrell, which I thought was,
well, strange.
Jessica E. Moyer
Director of Academic Resources
Richland Community College, Learning Resources Center
FROM: "Amanda Heideman" <[removed]@mail.tscpl.org>
REC'D: 12/7/04, 3:43 PM
Amanda
Amanda Heideman
Adult Services Supervisor
Topeka & Shawnee County Public Library
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FROM: Dennis Lien <[removed]@tc.umn.edu>
REC'D: 12/7/04, 4:11 PM
The FLASHMAN novels by George MacDonald Fraser have endnotes; essentially the
same thing except they're all gathered together and printed at the end of
the volume instead of being spaced out at the bottom (foot) of relevant pages.
Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // [removed]@tc.umn.edu
FROM: "Martinez, Sara" <[removed]@tulsalibrary.org>
REC'D: 12/7/04, 5:20 PM
Sara Martínez, Coordinator
Hispanic Resource Center
Tulsa City-County Library
FROM: David Wright <[removed]@yahoo.com>
REC'D: 12/7/04, 5:37 PM
David Wright
--- "Bergstrom, Jennifer"
<[removed]@sdcounty.ca.gov> wrote:
> I did read the Amulet of Samarkand (what a
> great title) and thought the footnotes were the
> best part! Otherwise I thought it was cute but
> a little dull. To each her own...
>
> Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace is
> another great novel with footnotes (some of
> them several pages long).
>
> Can anyone think of any others? I'll compile a
> list.
>
>
> Jenne Bergstrom
> Reference and Young Adult Librarian
> San Diego County Library, El Cajon Branch
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [removed]@maillist.webrary.org
> [[removed]@maillist.webrary.org]On
> Behalf Of Jessica Moyer
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 6:19 AM
> To: Fiction_L
> Subject: RE: Best Fiction of Late 2003 and 2004
>
>
>
> >Clarke, Susanna
> >Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell
> >I just like novels with footnotes.
>
> Then try the Bartimeaus trilogy (Amulet of
> Samarkand and the Golem's
> Eye) by Jonathon Stroud, Bartimeaus uses
> footnotes in his narration and
> I liked it better than Jonathon Strange and Mr.
> Norrell, which I thought
> was, well, strange.
>
> Jessica E. Moyer
> Director of Academic Resources
> Richland Community College, Learning Resources
> Center
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FROM: "Bill Edminster" <[removed]@mchenrylibrary.org>
REC'D: 12/7/04, 5:47 PM
Bill Edminster
Assistant Director
McHenry Public Library District
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From: [removed]@maillist.webrary.org
[[removed]@maillist.webrary.org]On Behalf Of Carlisle K. Webber
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 1:29 PM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: Re: Novels with footnotes
_Good Omens_ by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett uses footnotes. And
they are, to use an extraordinarily bad play on words, damn funny.
-Carlie Webber
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Carlisle Kraft Webber
Teen Librarian
Kinnelon, New Jersey, Public Library
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Bergstrom, Jennifer wrote:
>I did read the Amulet of Samarkand (what a great title) and thought the footnotes were the best part! Otherwise I thought it was cute but a little dull. To each her own...
>
>Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace is another great novel with footnotes (some of them several pages long).
>
>Can anyone think of any others? I'll compile a list.
>
>
>Jenne Bergstrom
>Reference and Young Adult Librarian
>San Diego County Library, El Cajon Branch
>
>
>
>
FROM: misha stone <[removed]@yahoo.com>
REC'D: 12/7/04, 6:38 PM
Will dredge memory for more...
Misha Stone
The Seattle Public Library, Fiction Dept.
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FROM: "Emily Wichman OH0018" <[removed]@oplin.org>
REC'D: 12/7/04, 7:00 PM
Emily T. Wichman
Adult Services Librarian
Milford-Miami Township Branch
Clermont County Public Library
FROM: "Janet Schneider" <[removed]@msn.com>
REC'D: 12/8/04, 12:42 AM
>From: misha stone <[removed]@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: "Fiction_L" <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>To: Fiction_L <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>Subject: Footnotes
>Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 14:09:40 -0800 (PST)
>
>"Love in a Dead Language" by Lee Seigel, a sexy
>academic novel, has footnotes.
>
>Will dredge memory for more...
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>Misha Stone
>The Seattle Public Library, Fiction Dept.
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FROM: [removed]@birchard.lib.oh.us
REC'D: 12/8/04, 10:07 AM
(And, on the nonfiction side of things, I recall that Pauline Kael once wrote that Oliver Sacks produced the most entertaining footnotes she had ever encountered.)
Best,
Kevin
FROM: "Warner, Deb" <[removed]@co.durham.nc.us>
REC'D: 12/8/04, 11:16 AM
FROM: "Warner, Deb" <[removed]@co.durham.nc.us>
REC'D: 12/8/04, 11:22 AM
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From: Amanda Heideman [[removed]@mail.tscpl.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 3:23 PM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: RE: Novels with footnotes
Ibid by Mark Dunn and the Thursday Next series by Jasper Fforde are some
recent examples I can think of.
Amanda
Amanda Heideman
Adult Services Supervisor
Topeka & Shawnee County Public Library
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FROM: Laura Pearle <[removed]@gmail.com>
REC'D: 12/8/04, 11:34 AM
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FROM: "Bergstrom, Jennifer" <[removed]@sdcounty.ca.gov>
REC'D: 12/10/04, 1:36 PM
Good job everyone, though I found this guy's website (http://www.miskatonic.org/footnotes.html) and his list pretty much blows ours out of the water. Maybe we can get him to join.
--Jenne Bergstrom
Novels With Footnotes
· House of Leaves by Mark Danielewski
The most over the top, blow up the drum kit and ram the guitar neck through the amp, example I can think of is House of Leaves by Mark Z Danielewski. Not only is it chock full of footnotes, but is has an extravaganza of typefaces and page layouts. The story itself is good, creepy fun until it runs out of gas about two thirds of the way through; the author didn't know when to quit.
· Good Omens by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett
uses footnotes. And they are, to use an extraordinarily bad play on words, damn funny. All Terry Pratchett's novels have at least a few footnotes.
· Generation S.L.U.T (sexually liberated urban teens): a brutal feel-up session with today's sex-crazed adolescent populace by Marty Beckerman
has lots of factual footnotes intertwined with a compelling and oh so telling fiction.
· Ibid: a life: a novel in footnotes by Mark Dunn.
An author's manuscript got destroyed in his editor's bathtub and all that was left were the footnotes!
· The FLASHMAN novels by George MacDonald Fraser
have endnotes; essentially the same thing except they're all gathered together and printed at the end of the volume instead of being spaced out at the bottom (foot) of relevant pages.
Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace
also has endnotes-over three hundred of them, some several pages in length.
Caramelo by Sandra Cisneros
has wonderful footnotes and is a great read!
Here is the compiled list, including people's comments. I've attached a Word file as well, which is much prettier.
Good job everyone, though I found this guy's website (http://www.miskatonic.org/footnotes.html) and his list pretty much blows ours out of the water. Maybe we can get him to join.
--Jenne Bergstrom
Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov
is a classic example - the 'novel' consists of a long narrative, poem, and a supposed commentary on the poem that takes on a life of its own. Nabokov's own notes on his translation of Eugene Onegen are very interesting, taking up a hefty volume that dwarfs the work itself.
Lake Wobegon Days by Garrison Keillor
has at least one footnote. The author was intending to have the longest footnote in fiction in history.
Love in a Dead Language by Lee Seigel
a sexy academic novel, has footnotes.
War with the Newts by Karel Capek
has long footnotes and also "excerpts" from newspapers and journals.
Love Storm by Susan Johnson
and other of her early historical erotic romances have extensive footnotes. They always seemed a bit incongruous...
The Thursday Next novels by Jasper Fforde
The great thing about these novels is that not only does the "outer text" by Fforde have footnotes, the texts referenced within the story are footnoted and the Jurisfiction agents communicate by "footnoterphone" (sp?)
Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell by Susannah Clarke
has copious footnotes with "historical" and "bibliographic" information. You miss a lot of the fun if you skip the footnotes.
The Bartimaeus trilogy (Amulet of Samarkand and the Golem's Eye) by Jonathon Stroud
Bartimaeus uses footnotes in his narration.
Jenne Bergstrom
Reference and Young Adult Librarian
San Diego County Library, El Cajon Branch
201 E. Douglas Ave.
El Cajon, CA 92020
(619) 588-3703
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