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FROM: Lucy Lockley <[removed]@mail.win.org>
REC'D: 5/30/02, 11:34 AM

To all you well-informed folks out on Fiction_L:

I have had a staff member ask the following question and thought I'd check
with the 'font of all book/reading knowledge', as I have come to think of
Fiction_L...

Do you have any idea how to search for more Serial Novels like
"Naked Came the Phoenix" and "Naked Came the Manatee".
This patron wants books like this. Any suggestions?? We tried
Novelist and What do I read Next?

'Naked Come the Phoenix: a Serial Novel' (St. Martin's Minotaur, 2001) is
by J.D. Robb, et al and 'Naked Came the Manatee: a Serial Novel' (G. P.
Putnam, 1996) is by Carl Hiaasen, et al. So far the only other title I
have found that is listed, in the title field, as a serial novel is 'The
Green Mile: the Complete Serial Novel' by Stephen King. This could be due
our catalog (incorrect cataloging) or perhaps my district has not bought
any other serial novels. Also, John Grisham's "A Painted House" which was
originally published in serialized format in six consecutive issues of "The
Oxford American Magazine" is NOT what the patron is looking for.

Any suggestions like the two 'Naked Came the...' titles would be greatly
appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Lucy

Lucy M. Lockley Phone: 636/441.2300, Ext. 1563
Collection Development Manager FAX: 636/441.3132
St. Charles City-County Library District
425 Spencer Road
P.O. Box 529 e-mail: [removed]@mail.win.org
St. Peters, MO 63376-0529 Library website: www.win.org/library

"Demons after money!?! Whatever happened to the still beating heart
of a virgin?! No one has ANY standards anymore!"
Giles, the Librarian ('Buffy, the Vampire Slayer')
___
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FROM: "Roberta Johnson" <[removed]@dppl.org>
REC'D: 5/30/02, 11:55 AM

It took some head scratching to find this one since I couldn't remember any of the contributors *and* had the title wrong, but:

The Whole Family, with chapters by Henry James (duh) and William Dean Howells, among others.

And I can't discover any way to search for these. Serial novels seems to mean originally published serially, ala The Green Mile. It would be a fun list, so I hope there are some more titles out there.

Roberta S. Johnson, Readers' Services Librarian
Des Plaines Public Library
1501 Ellinwood, Des Plaines, IL 60016
847-376-2816
[removed]@dppl.org www.dppl.org
Opinions my own.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lucy Lockley [[removed]@mail.win.org]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:51 AM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: Serial Novels

To all you well-informed folks out on Fiction_L:

I have had a staff member ask the following question and thought I'd check
with the 'font of all book/reading knowledge', as I have come to think of
Fiction_L...

Do you have any idea how to search for more Serial Novels like
"Naked Came the Phoenix" and "Naked Came the Manatee".
This patron wants books like this. Any suggestions?? We tried
Novelist and What do I read Next?

'Naked Come the Phoenix: a Serial Novel' (St. Martin's Minotaur, 2001) is
by J.D. Robb, et al and 'Naked Came the Manatee: a Serial Novel' (G. P.
Putnam, 1996) is by Carl Hiaasen, et al. So far the only other title I
have found that is listed, in the title field, as a serial novel is 'The
Green Mile: the Complete Serial Novel' by Stephen King. This could be due
our catalog (incorrect cataloging) or perhaps my district has not bought
any other serial novels. Also, John Grisham's "A Painted House" which was
originally published in serialized format in six consecutive issues of "The
Oxford American Magazine" is NOT what the patron is looking for.

Any suggestions like the two 'Naked Came the...' titles would be greatly
appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Lucy

Lucy M. Lockley Phone: 636/441.2300, Ext. 1563
Collection Development Manager FAX: 636/441.3132
St. Charles City-County Library District
425 Spencer Road
P.O. Box 529 e-mail: [removed]@mail.win.org
St. Peters, MO 63376-0529 Library website: www.win.org/library

"Demons after money!?! Whatever happened to the still beating heart
of a virgin?! No one has ANY standards anymore!"
Giles, the Librarian ('Buffy, the Vampire Slayer')
___
| \
| \
[removed]@############]==========================================================>
\\ | /
\\ ____/ / Touche!
\________/

FROM: "Laurie Librarian" <[removed]@hotmail.com>
REC'D: 5/30/02, 12:06 PM

This may not answer your question but John Saul put out a serialized book
called the "Blackstone Chronicles."

>From: Lucy Lockley <[removed]@mail.win.org>
>Reply-To: "Fiction_L" <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>To: Fiction_L <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>Subject: Serial Novels
>Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 10:50:39 -0500
>
>
>To all you well-informed folks out on Fiction_L:
>
>I have had a staff member ask the following question and thought I'd check
>with the 'font of all book/reading knowledge', as I have come to think of
>Fiction_L...
>
>Do you have any idea how to search for more Serial Novels like
>"Naked Came the Phoenix" and "Naked Came the Manatee".
>This patron wants books like this. Any suggestions?? We tried
>Novelist and What do I read Next?
>
>'Naked Come the Phoenix: a Serial Novel' (St. Martin's Minotaur, 2001) is
>by J.D. Robb, et al and 'Naked Came the Manatee: a Serial Novel' (G. P.
>Putnam, 1996) is by Carl Hiaasen, et al. So far the only other title I
>have found that is listed, in the title field, as a serial novel is 'The
>Green Mile: the Complete Serial Novel' by Stephen King. This could be due
>our catalog (incorrect cataloging) or perhaps my district has not bought
>any other serial novels. Also, John Grisham's "A Painted House" which was
>originally published in serialized format in six consecutive issues of "The
>Oxford American Magazine" is NOT what the patron is looking for.
>
>Any suggestions like the two 'Naked Came the...' titles would be greatly
>appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>
>Lucy
>
>Lucy M. Lockley Phone: 636/441.2300, Ext. 1563
>Collection Development Manager FAX: 636/441.3132
>St. Charles City-County Library District
>425 Spencer Road
>P.O. Box 529 e-mail: [removed]@mail.win.org
>St. Peters, MO 63376-0529 Library website: www.win.org/library
>
> "Demons after money!?! Whatever happened to the still beating heart
> of a virgin?! No one has ANY standards anymore!"
> Giles, the Librarian ('Buffy, the Vampire Slayer')
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FROM: "Dillie, Thomas" <[removed]@mailserv.gcpl.lib.oh.us>
REC'D: 5/30/02, 12:28 PM

Lucy,
Here are few suggestions for collaborative novels. Note that most, but not all, are mysteries.

Natural Suspect, Ballantine, 2001, is a serial thriller organized by William Bernhardt. Eleven authors each wrote a chapter.
The Devil's Rood: A Group Novel about American's First Serial Killer, Creative Arts Books Co., 2000.
Finbar's Hotel, Harvest Books, 1999, and Ladies' Night at Finbar's Hotel, Harvest Books, 2000, are collaborations of a group of Irish writers; the plots center around the guests and staff at Finbar's Hotel.
Yeats Is Dead, Vintage, 2002, another Irish collaboration. This time a crime novel done as a benefit for Amnesty International. Already published in the U.K., the Vintage edition is due out here in June.
Then there are the novels written by "The Detection Club" which included a varying number of British mystery writers. There were several titles published under this rubric, all have been reprinted more than once. Some of the books seem to be more collections of inter-related short stories than actual collaborative novels. For a list of titles and the authors involved with each book, see http://www.cs.appstate.edu/~sjg/detectionclub.html.

Tom Dillie
Head Librarian
Cedarville Community Library
Greene County Public Library
P.O. Box 26
76 N. Main St.
Cedarville, OH 45314

"'Under consideration' means we've lost the file. 'Under active consideration' means we're trying to find it."

-----Original Message-----
From: Lucy Lockley [[removed]@mail.win.org]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:51 AM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: Serial Novels

To all you well-informed folks out on Fiction_L:

I have had a staff member ask the following question and thought I'd check
with the 'font of all book/reading knowledge', as I have come to think of
Fiction_L...

Do you have any idea how to search for more Serial Novels like
"Naked Came the Phoenix" and "Naked Came the Manatee".
This patron wants books like this. Any suggestions?? We tried
Novelist and What do I read Next?

'Naked Come the Phoenix: a Serial Novel' (St. Martin's Minotaur, 2001) is
by J.D. Robb, et al and 'Naked Came the Manatee: a Serial Novel' (G. P.
Putnam, 1996) is by Carl Hiaasen, et al. So far the only other title I
have found that is listed, in the title field, as a serial novel is 'The
Green Mile: the Complete Serial Novel' by Stephen King. This could be due
our catalog (incorrect cataloging) or perhaps my district has not bought
any other serial novels. Also, John Grisham's "A Painted House" which was
originally published in serialized format in six consecutive issues of "The
Oxford American Magazine" is NOT what the patron is looking for.

Any suggestions like the two 'Naked Came the...' titles would be greatly
appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Lucy

Lucy M. Lockley Phone: 636/441.2300, Ext. 1563
Collection Development Manager FAX: 636/441.3132
St. Charles City-County Library District
425 Spencer Road
P.O. Box 529 e-mail: [removed]@mail.win.org
St. Peters, MO 63376-0529 Library website: www.win.org/library

"Demons after money!?! Whatever happened to the still beating heart
of a virgin?! No one has ANY standards anymore!"
Giles, the Librarian ('Buffy, the Vampire Slayer')
___
| \
| \
[removed]@############]==========================================================>
\\ | /
\\ ____/ / Touche!
\________/

FROM: Dennis Lien <[removed]@tc.umn.edu>
REC'D: 5/30/02, 12:28 PM

(1) THE WHOLE FAMILY is online at

http://digital.library.upenn.edu/webbin/gutbook/lookup?num=5066

(2) No one has yet mentioned in this context NAKED CAME THE STRANGER
(whose existence is why the two later "NAKED" novels get those titles),
a mildly erotic serial novel published under the joint pseudonym of
"Pauline Ashe" back in 1969.

(3) As noted, "serial novel" would mean something totally different.
I'd suggest "round robin novel" or "round robin story."

(4) There were several round robin detective stories published in
England in the 1930s and 1940s, many under the auspices of The
Detection Club; these have had modern US pb reprints because such
authors as Christie and Carr contributed chapters, which meant
that Christie etc. completists had to have them--bad as most were
as detective stories. For list of some of these, see

http://www.cs.appstate.edu/~sjg/detectionclub.html

(5) In the sf/f world, I can't think of offhand of any full-length
round robin novels, though there are a few short stories, most
famously "The Challenge From Beyond" (which are actually two
round robin stories, one sf and one fantasy) from 1935:

http://www.howardworks.iwarp.com/npother.htm

Here's some folks doing a new "Challenge from Beyond" roundrobin,
though none of theirames mean anything to me:

http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/leiber/50/Robin.htm

Ah, I did just think of a full-length example: GHOR, KIN-SLAYER:

Ghor, Kin-Slayer ed. Jonathan Bacon (Necronomicon Press 0-940884-91-7, Aug
’97 [Sep ’97], $8.95, 176pp, tp, cover
by Robert H. Knox); Anthology/novel based on an unfinished story by Robert
E. Howard, with a different author writing each
of the 17 chapters. The first 12 chapters were published in the magazine
Fantasy Crossroads; the remainder appear here for
the first time. Authors include Karl Edward Wagner, Michael Moorcock, and
Marion Zimmer Bradley. Available from
Necronomicon Press, PO Box 1304, West Warwick RI 02893.
7 • Genseric’s Son [*James Allison (past lives of)] • Robert E. Howard
• rr Fantasy Crossroads #10/11 ’77
11 • The Coming of Ghor [“Genseric’s Fifth-Born Son, Chapter 2: The
Coming of Ghor”] • Karl Edward Wagner • rr
Fantasy Crossroads #10 ’77
19 • Ghor’s Revenge • Joseph Payne Brennan • rr Fantasy Crossroads #10
’77
29 • The Ice Woman’s Prophecy • Richard L. Tierney • rr Fantasy
Crossroads #12 ’77
37 • The Nemedians • Michael Moorcock • rr Fantasy Crossroads #12 ’77
43 • Betrayal in Belverus • Charles R. Saunders • rr Fantasy
Crossroads #12 ’77
55 • Lord General of Nemedia • Andrew J. Offutt • rr Fantasy
Crossroads #13 ’78
65 • The Oath of Agha Junghaz • Manly Wade Wellman • rr Fantasy
Crossroads #13 ’78
77 • The Mouth of the Earth • Darrell Schweitzer • rr Fantasy
Crossroads #14 ’78
88 • The Gods Defied • A. E. van Vogt • rr Fantasy Crossroads #14 ’78
94 • Swordsmith and Sorcerer • Brian Lumley • rr Fantasy Crossroads
#15 ’79
105 • The Gift of Lycanthropy • Frank Belknap Long • rr Fantasy
Crossroads #15 ’79
122 • The War Among the Gods • Adrian Cole • rr *
133 • The Ways of Chaos • Ramsey Campbell • rr Far Away & Never,
Necronomicon Press, 1996
141 • The Caves of Stygia • H. Warner Munn • rr *
152 • Doom of the Thrice-Cursed • Marion Zimmer Bradley • rr *
163 • The River of Fog • Richard A. Lupoff • rr *
176 • Publisher’s Note • Anon. • aw *

(I've read it and it's terrible, by the way.)

I suppose some of the WILD CARDS series books ed. George R.R. Martin
might qualify, though they are mostly anthologies of stories against
a shared background, with some overlap of plots, rather than real
novels. But one or two at least are described as "braided novels"
(another possible search term).

Braided novels overlap in sf/f with "shared universe" anthologies
or series books; again, single volumes in such are usually
anthologies of stories by multiple authors against a common
background, rather than unified *novels* by multiple authors,
but it might be close enough to be of interest to your client
anyway (assuming s/he reads sf/f): WILD CARDS, THIEVES WORLD,
HEROES IN HELL, LIAVEK, etc.

(6) Searches on google.com or other search engines on such
terms as round robins round robin fiction round robin novels
braided novel shared universe stories etc. should
keep you busy for a bit.

Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // [removed]@tc.umn.edu

At 11:51 AM 5/30/02 -0500, you wrote:
>It took some head scratching to find this one since I couldn't remember
any of the contributors *and* had the title wrong, but:
>
>The Whole Family, with chapters by Henry James (duh) and William Dean
Howells, among others.
>
>And I can't discover any way to search for these.
>Roberta S. Johnson, Readers' Services Librarian
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Lucy Lockley [[removed]@mail.win.org]
>Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:51 AM
>To: Fiction_L
>Subject: Serial Novels
>
>
>Do you have any idea how to search for more Serial Novels like
>"Naked Came the Phoenix" and "Naked Came the Manatee".
>This patron wants books like this. Any suggestions?? We tried
>Novelist and What do I read Next?

>
>Any suggestions like the two 'Naked Came the...' titles would be greatly
>appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>
>Lucy M. Lockley Phone: 636/441.2300, Ext. 1563

FROM: Dennis Lien <[removed]@tc.umn.edu>
REC'D: 5/30/02, 12:38 PM

At 12:17 PM 5/30/02 -0500, you wrote:

correction:

>(3) As noted, "serial novel" would mean something totally different.
>I'd suggest "round robin novel" or "round robin story."

I should have said "could mean something totally different," rather
than "would" (that is, some people do refer to NAKED CAME THE
STRANGER and such as serial novels, but to me a "serial novel"
would first bring up the impression of simply a novel that has
been serialized in a magazine--something that used to be routine
but these days is scarce (for that matter, magazines that still
print fiction these days are themselves scarce...).

Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // d-lien#tc.umn.edu

FROM: "M. Wms." <[removed]@adelphia.net>
REC'D: 5/30/02, 12:38 PM

This is another famous collaborative novel:
THE FLOATING ADMIRAL, a Mystery Novel Written by 13 Authors.
1932. The authors include Chesterton, the Coles, Henry Wade, Agatha
Christie, John Rohde, Doirothy L Sayers, Ronald A Knox, Freeman
Wills Crofts, Clemence Dane, Anthony Berkeley and others.

~ Molly
--
Molly Williams, Volunteer, Waterboro Public Library (Maine)
Library Weblog: http://www.waterboro.lib.me.us/blog.htm

FROM: "M. Wms." <[removed]@adelphia.net>
REC'D: 5/30/02, 12:38 PM

The first was Naked Came the Stranger (1969)
The hilarious erotic adventures of a young radio show cohost who
systematically seduces thirteen men, each in a different way, after
she discovers her husband (and cohost) is cheating on her, written
by a demure Long Island housewife whose sultry photo appears on the
back cover. Actually, this classic hoax was the idea of Mike McGrady
of `Long Island Newsday' who recruited 25 friends to write the book.

There's also Naked Came the Farmer, written by Illinois authors
http://bradley.bradley.edu/~dlb/farmer.html
A serialized round robin murder mystery written in the tradition of
Naked Came The Stranger, and the more recent, Naked Came The
Manatee. All proceeds benefit the Friends of the Peoria Public Library.

Also, Naked Came the Plowman
http://members.tripod.com/theurbanite/plowman.html
written by 25 mid-western authors
This rollicking adventure tells an exciting tale of time travel, a
naked guy wandering around, evil catfish men (who are also naked),
and life on the Mississippi. Money raised by the book will go
toward a Midwest Writing Center.

~ Molly Wms.
--
Molly Williams, Volunteer, Waterboro Public Library (Maine)
Library Weblog: http://www.waterboro.lib.me.us/blog.htm

Lucy Lockley wrote:

>
> To all you well-informed folks out on Fiction_L:
>
> I have had a staff member ask the following question and thought I'd
> check with the 'font of all book/reading knowledge', as I have come to
> think of Fiction_L...
>
> Do you have any idea how to search for more Serial Novels like
> "Naked Came the Phoenix" and "Naked Came the Manatee".
> This patron wants books like this. Any suggestions?? We tried
> Novelist and What do I read Next?
>
> 'Naked Come the Phoenix: a Serial Novel' (St. Martin's Minotaur, 2001)
> is by J.D. Robb, et al and 'Naked Came the Manatee: a Serial Novel' (G.
> P. Putnam, 1996) is by Carl Hiaasen, et al. So far the only other title
> I have found that is listed, in the title field, as a serial novel is
> 'The Green Mile: the Complete Serial Novel' by Stephen King. This could
> be due our catalog (incorrect cataloging) or perhaps my district has not
> bought any other serial novels. Also, John Grisham's "A Painted House"
> which was originally published in serialized format in six consecutive
> issues of "The Oxford American Magazine" is NOT what the patron is
> looking for.
>
> Any suggestions like the two 'Naked Came the...' titles would be greatly
> appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>
> Lucy
>
> Lucy M. Lockley Phone: 636/441.2300, Ext. 1563
> Collection Development Manager FAX: 636/441.3132
> St. Charles City-County Library District
> 425 Spencer Road
> P.O. Box 529 e-mail: [removed]@mail.win.org
> St. Peters, MO 63376-0529 Library website: www.win.org/library
>
> "Demons after money!?! Whatever happened to the still beating heart
> of a virgin?! No one has ANY standards anymore!"
> Giles, the Librarian ('Buffy, the Vampire Slayer')
> ___
> | \
> | \
> [removed]@############]==========================================================>
> \\ | /
> \\ ____/ / Touche!
> \________/
>
> ......................................................................
> Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
> Everything Fiction_L: http://www.webrary.org/rs/flmenu.html
>

FROM: "M. Wms." <[removed]@adelphia.net>
REC'D: 5/30/02, 12:49 PM

Here are more collaborative novels; not sure if these fit the bill:

Natural Suspect - a Collaborative Novel of Suspense
Bernhardt, Glass, Hartamark, Kazenbach, Lescroart, et al.. 2001

THE MARBLE FOREST. (also published as The Big Fear)
Durrant, Theo. 1951 Collaborative mystery, reportedly directed by
Anthony Boucher and written by a dozen west coast members of the
Mystery Writers of America

4 X 4: A Collaborative Short Story and Novella Collection
by Oliveri, Michael; Cooper, Geoff; Keene, Brian; and Huyck, Michael
T. 2001. Collection of nine collaborative novellas and short
stories by the four authors. Includes the Stoker recommended
novella, Earthworm Gods.

Berserker Base a Collaborative Novel.
Anderson, Poul; Bryant, Edward; Donaldson, Stephen R. ; Niven,
Larry; Saberhagen, Fred; Willis, Connie; Zelazny, Roger 1987 316 pp.

Finbar's Hotel
Bolger, Dermot (ed.); Roddy Doyle; Jennifer Johnson; Colm Toibin;
Anne Enright; Hugo Hamilton; Joseph O'Connor 2000.
Collaborative Dublin novel 'devised and edited by Dermot Bolger' --
7 chapters written by 7 authors.

~ Molly
--
Molly Williams, Volunteer, Waterboro Public Library (Maine)
Library Weblog: http://www.waterboro.lib.me.us/blog.htm

FROM: "Quillen, Christine" <[removed]@camden.lib.nj.us>
REC'D: 5/30/02, 12:49 PM

Lucy,

I checked NoveList and both Naked Came the Manatee and Naked Came the
Phoenixn use the subject heading "collaborative novels". Searching on that
turns up 250 hits. Most of them seem to have been written by just two
authors, but there may be some with multiple authors.

Also Last Night at Finbar's Hotel was written by seven authors including
Maeve Binchy.

C. L.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lucy Lockley [[removed]@mail.win.org]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:51 AM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: Serial Novels

To all you well-informed folks out on Fiction_L:

I have had a staff member ask the following question and thought I'd check
with the 'font of all book/reading knowledge', as I have come to think of
Fiction_L...

Do you have any idea how to search for more Serial Novels like
"Naked Came the Phoenix" and "Naked Came the Manatee".
This patron wants books like this. Any suggestions?? We tried
Novelist and What do I read Next?

'Naked Come the Phoenix: a Serial Novel' (St. Martin's Minotaur, 2001) is
by J.D. Robb, et al and 'Naked Came the Manatee: a Serial Novel' (G. P.
Putnam, 1996) is by Carl Hiaasen, et al. So far the only other title I
have found that is listed, in the title field, as a serial novel is 'The
Green Mile: the Complete Serial Novel' by Stephen King. This could be due
our catalog (incorrect cataloging) or perhaps my district has not bought
any other serial novels. Also, John Grisham's "A Painted House" which was
originally published in serialized format in six consecutive issues of "The
Oxford American Magazine" is NOT what the patron is looking for.

Any suggestions like the two 'Naked Came the...' titles would be greatly
appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Lucy

Lucy M. Lockley Phone: 636/441.2300, Ext. 1563
Collection Development Manager FAX: 636/441.3132
St. Charles City-County Library District
425 Spencer Road
P.O. Box 529 e-mail:
[removed]@mail.win.org
St. Peters, MO 63376-0529 Library website:
www.win.org/library

"Demons after money!?! Whatever happened to the still beating heart
of a virgin?! No one has ANY standards anymore!"
Giles, the Librarian ('Buffy, the Vampire Slayer')
___
| \
| \
[removed]@############]==========================================================>
\\ | /
\\ ____/ / Touche!
\________/

FROM: "Quillen, Christine" <[removed]@camden.lib.nj.us>
REC'D: 5/30/02, 1:00 PM

That should have been "Ladies' Night at Finbar's Hotel".

-----Original Message-----
From: Quillen, Christine [[removed]@camden.lib.nj.us]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 1:38 PM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: RE: Serial Novels

Lucy,

I checked NoveList and both Naked Came the Manatee and Naked Came the
Phoenixn use the subject heading "collaborative novels". Searching on that
turns up 250 hits. Most of them seem to have been written by just two
authors, but there may be some with multiple authors.

Also Last Night at Finbar's Hotel was written by seven authors including
Maeve Binchy.

C. L.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lucy Lockley [[removed]@mail.win.org]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:51 AM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: Serial Novels

To all you well-informed folks out on Fiction_L:

I have had a staff member ask the following question and thought I'd check
with the 'font of all book/reading knowledge', as I have come to think of
Fiction_L...

Do you have any idea how to search for more Serial Novels like
"Naked Came the Phoenix" and "Naked Came the Manatee".
This patron wants books like this. Any suggestions?? We tried
Novelist and What do I read Next?

'Naked Come the Phoenix: a Serial Novel' (St. Martin's Minotaur, 2001) is
by J.D. Robb, et al and 'Naked Came the Manatee: a Serial Novel' (G. P.
Putnam, 1996) is by Carl Hiaasen, et al. So far the only other title I
have found that is listed, in the title field, as a serial novel is 'The
Green Mile: the Complete Serial Novel' by Stephen King. This could be due
our catalog (incorrect cataloging) or perhaps my district has not bought
any other serial novels. Also, John Grisham's "A Painted House" which was
originally published in serialized format in six consecutive issues of "The
Oxford American Magazine" is NOT what the patron is looking for.

Any suggestions like the two 'Naked Came the...' titles would be greatly
appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Lucy

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Collection Development Manager FAX: 636/441.3132
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FROM: [removed]@aol.com
REC'D: 5/31/02, 12:28 AM

In a message dated 5/30/2002 12:32:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[removed]@mail.win.org writes:

'Naked Come the Phoenix: a Serial Novel' (St. Martin's Minotaur, 2001) is
by J.D. Robb, et al and 'Naked Came the Manatee: a Serial Novel' (G. P.
Putnam, 1996) is by Carl Hiaasen, et al. So far the only other title I
have found that is listed, in the title field, as a serial novel is 'The
Green Mile: the Complete Serial Novel' by Stephen King. This could be due
our catalog (incorrect cataloging) or perhaps my district has not bought
any other serial novels. Also, John Grisham's "A Painted House" which was
originally published in serialized format in six consecutive issues of "The
Oxford American Magazine" is NOT what the patron is looking for.

If memory serves, the "Naked came the...." titles above owe their birthright
to NAKED CAME THE STRANGER, by "Penelope Ashe" in which a group of
journalists got together to see if they could pen a risque (for want of a
better word) book. From what I remember when the hoopla came out, anything
remotely literary or journalistic was blue-pencilled. The whole thing was
done for fun, and became quite a success.

I think Julie Garwood also wrote a trilogy with "Rose" in the title.

And Iris Johansen, Kay Hooper and Fayrene Preston each wrote volumes in the
Bantam-published series, THE DELANEYS OF KILLAROO. You can find out ind.
titles in the series by inputting the series name as a search time on Amazon.

Speaking of serials - one should recall Dickens, many of whose novels were
published serially.

Binnie Syril Braunstein
Romance novelist/former librarian

FROM: [removed]@carmel.lib.in.us (Mary Boyden)
REC'D: 5/30/02, 5:46 PM

RE:Serial Novels search using NoveList

EVERY search you do using NoveList gives you 250 hits. That doesn't mean you have 250 matches - you have to look at the number of words matching in your hits. If you had 10 words the first one or two hits will have all of those words and it will drop from there; by the time you get to #250 you may only have one or two words matching.

I'm a big fan of NoveList, but stating that you have 250 matches is an exageration of its ability.

Mary Boyden
Readers' Advisory Librarian
Carmel Clay Public Library

FROM: "Quillen, Christine" <[removed]@camden.lib.nj.us>
REC'D: 5/30/02, 7:43 PM

Not every search you do in NoveList results in 250 hits. Searching on
"serial novels" in all fields only results in 10 hits; while a search on
"women" in all fields results in 1200. It all depends on how you search. If
you do an advanced boolean search on "collaborative novels" (to use my
earlier example) and specify "subjects" with the drop down menu all of the
records returned have that as a subject heading (100% hit rate)and the
results are sorted alphabetically by author.

-----Original Message-----
From: [removed]@carmel.lib.in.us [[removed]@carmel.lib.in.us]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 1:45 PM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: Re: RE: Serial Novels

RE:Serial Novels search using NoveList

EVERY search you do using NoveList gives you 250 hits. That doesn't mean
you have 250 matches - you have to look at the number of words matching in
your hits. If you had 10 words the first one or two hits will have all of
those words and it will drop from there; by the time you get to #250 you may
only have one or two words matching.

I'm a big fan of NoveList, but stating that you have 250 matches is an
exageration of its ability.

Mary Boyden
Readers' Advisory Librarian
Carmel Clay Public Library

FROM: [removed]@carmel.lib.in.us (Mary Boyden)
REC'D: 5/30/02, 7:53 PM

RE: Searching for Collaborative Novels using NoveList

I take it back! I did the same search refered to on Collaborative Novels and there were 250 correct hits!

I do love that database!

Mary Boyden
Readers' Advisory Librarian
Carmel Clay Public Library

FROM: [removed]@aol.com
REC'D: 5/31/02, 12:38 AM

There's also a very famous collaborative collection or novel, written by
mystery writers, but I think FDR also contributed - or at least inspired the
idea. The book is THE PRESIDENT'S MYSTERY PLOT, and it's listed on an
existing Fiction_L list, as a matter of fact.

Binnie Syril Braunstein
Romance novelist/former librarian

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