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FROM: Cathy Reid <[removed]@ccpl.lib.oh.us>
REC'D: 4/30/02, 8:20 AM

I have a patron looking for alternate history fiction. I've given him
Fatherland, by Robert Harris and he's read some of Harry Harrison's that are
alternate history. I did some general web searching and some searching on
Amazon, but came up with very little in the way of a good list. This is an
area of fiction I know extremely little about, so I'd be grateful for any help
at all.

Thanks!

Cathy Reid
Reference Librarian
Clark County Public Library

FROM: "Karen A.K. Keller" <[removed]@brighton.lib.mi.us>
REC'D: 4/30/02, 8:20 AM

Harry Turtledove writes lots of alternate history novels.

Karen Keller
Brighton (MI) District Library

FROM: Suzanne Pontius <[removed]@yahoo.com>
REC'D: 4/30/02, 8:30 AM

A great website for alternate history is
www.uchronia.net.
Suzanne Pontius
Preble County District Library
Eaton, Ohio

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FROM: "M. Wms." <[removed]@adelphia.net>
REC'D: 4/30/02, 8:41 AM

Cathy,

We have annotated links to lots of alternate history websites:
http://www.waterboro.lib.me.us/bklistsf.htm#ttah

One of the largest is Uchronia: http://www.uchronia.net/

Good luck --

~ Molly Wms.
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Molly Williams
Volunteer, Waterboro Public Library (Maine)
daily library weblog: http://www.waterboro.lib.me.us/blog.htm


Cathy Reid wrote:

> I have a patron looking for alternate history fiction. I've given him
> Fatherland, by Robert Harris and he's read some of Harry Harrison's that are
> alternate history. I did some general web searching and some searching on
> Amazon, but came up with very little in the way of a good list. This is an
> area of fiction I know extremely little about, so I'd be grateful for any help
> at all.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Cathy Reid
> Reference Librarian
> Clark County Public Library
>

FROM: Bradley A Scott <[removed]@juno.com>
REC'D: 4/30/02, 9:15 AM

Here are a couple I've recently read or revisited:

McKinlay Kantor's "If the South had Won the Civil War" was my first
experience of this type of fiction, and it remains an interesting book.
"Resurrection Day", by Brendan DuBois, takes place in an alternate world
in which the Cuban Missile Crisis escalated into a full-blown nuclear
war. And Harry Turtledove has already been mentioned.

For a much more comprehensive list, check out www.uchronia.net. The
"Alternate History List" has an extensive, annotated selection of
alternate-history novels, stories, essays, etc.

I also recall seeing an article on this subject from the estimable Nancy
Pearl in a recent issue of Library Journal. Unfortunately, PerAbs and
General Reference Gold seem to know nothing of it. Does anyone else
remember when it appeared?

While searching for the LJ article, I came across a March 2002 School
Library Journal review of "The Best Alternate History Stories of the 20th
Century.", edited by Harry Turtledove & Martin H. Greenberg. It sounded
like it might be interesting to this reader.

Bradley A. Scott

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FROM: "Deborah T. Walsh" <[removed]@geneva.lib.il.us>
REC'D: 4/30/02, 9:57 AM

Bradley Scott said:

> I also recall seeing an article on this subject from the estimable Nancy
> Pearl in a recent issue of Library Journal. Unfortunately, PerAbs and
> General Reference Gold seem to know nothing of it. Does anyone else
> remember when it appeared?


The Nancy Pearl LJ Reader's Shelf article on Alternate Histories ran in the
March 15, 2002 issue of Library Journal. Perhaps it's just too recent to
have been indexed in the sources you checked.


Deborah T. Walsh
Geneva Public Library District
Geneva, IL
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FROM: "Marsha Valance" <[removed]@mpl.org>
REC'D: 4/30/02, 10:18 AM

The recent Fantasy & SF issue of BOOKLIST has a short bibliography of alternate histories.
Two excellent recent ones are THE YEARS OF RICE AND SALT by Kim Stanley Robinson and 1632 by Eric Flint.


Marsha Valance
Regional Librarian
Wisconsin Regional Library f/t Blind & Physically Handicapped
813 West Wells St.
Milwaukee, WI 53233
1.800.242.8822 [in-state]
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>>> [removed]@ccpl.lib.oh.us 04/30/02 08:11AM >>>
I have a patron looking for alternate history fiction. I've given him
Fatherland, by Robert Harris and he's read some of Harry Harrison's that are
alternate history. I did some general web searching and some searching on
Amazon, but came up with very little in the way of a good list. This is an
area of fiction I know extremely little about, so I'd be grateful for any help
at all.

Thanks!

Cathy Reid
Reference Librarian
Clark County Public Library

FROM: Thelma Stone <[removed]@fortworthlibrary.org>
REC'D: 4/30/02, 11:44 AM

Amis, Kingsley. The Alteration.
Bishop, Michael. The Secret Ascension.
Burdekin, Katherine. Swastika Night.
Dick, Philip K. The Man in the High Castle.
Dvorkin, David. Budspy.
Harrison, Harry. Tunnel Through the Deeps
Hogan, James P. The Proteus Operation.
Linaweaver, Brad. Moon of Ice.
Moorcock, Michael. The Nomad of Time.
Mullally, Fred. Hitler Has Won.
Roberts, Keith. Pavanne.
Yulsman, Jerry. Elleander Morning.

FROM: "Shari Hetzke" <[removed]@ahml.lib.il.us>
REC'D: 4/30/02, 12:36 PM

One of my favorite authors, Jack Finney, has written a book called The Woodrow Wilson Dime. Pretty enjoyable.

(But his best book is Time and Again!)

Shari Hetzke

Shari Hetzke, Secondary School Services Specialist
Arlington Heights Memorial Library
500 North Dunton
Arlington Heights, IL 60004
Phone 847.506.2629 Fax 847.506.2655

FROM: [removed]@juno.com
REC'D: 4/30/02, 2:11 PM

In my earlier posting on this topic, I misspelled the name of the author of "If the South had Won the Civil War". The correct spelling is MacKinlay Kantor.

I just saw a positive review in the April 15 Publisher's Weekly which might be relevant to this query. It's "Hannibal's Children", by John Maddox Roberts. According to PW, it's about "what would have happened if Hannibal had received the reinforcements necessary to topple the Roman Empire".

Bradley A. Scott


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FROM: Nancy Maltby Henkel <[removed]@kcls.org>
REC'D: 4/30/02, 4:44 PM

Hi. Funny how serendipitous librarianship can be. This came across my
desk this morning:
The Best Alternate History Stories of the 20th Century. Edited by Harry
Turtledove and Martin Greenberg. ISBN 0-345-43990-2. Copyright
2001. Includes stories by Turtledove, Larry Niven, Greg Bear, Poul
Anderson, and more.

--Nancy

Nancy Maltby Henkel
Maple Valley Library; Maple Valley, WA
King County Library System "After 3 days without
e-mail: [removed]@kcls.org reading, talk becomes
phone: (425) 432-4620 flavorless."
--Chinese Proverb

FROM: "Steven A. Roman" <[removed]@addison.lib.il.us>
REC'D: 4/30/02, 4:54 PM

Philip K. Dick's novel _The Man in the High Castle_ envisions a world where
the Germans and Japanese won WW II.

Steven

-----Original Message-----
From: Cathy Reid [[removed]@ccpl.lib.oh.us]
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 8:12 AM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: Alternate history


I have a patron looking for alternate history fiction. I've given him
Fatherland, by Robert Harris and he's read some of Harry Harrison's that are

alternate history. I did some general web searching and some searching on
Amazon, but came up with very little in the way of a good list. This is an
area of fiction I know extremely little about, so I'd be grateful for any
help
at all.

Thanks!

Cathy Reid
Reference Librarian
Clark County Public Library

FROM: "Steven A. Roman" <[removed]@addison.lib.il.us>
REC'D: 4/30/02, 4:54 PM

Oh! In addition, Harry Turtledove is well known for his alternate
histories.

Steven A. Roman

-----Original Message-----
From: Cathy Reid [[removed]@ccpl.lib.oh.us]
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 8:12 AM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: Alternate history


I have a patron looking for alternate history fiction. I've given him
Fatherland, by Robert Harris and he's read some of Harry Harrison's that are

alternate history. I did some general web searching and some searching on
Amazon, but came up with very little in the way of a good list. This is an
area of fiction I know extremely little about, so I'd be grateful for any
help
at all.

Thanks!

Cathy Reid
Reference Librarian
Clark County Public Library

FROM: "Jeanne Etling" <[removed]@nsls.info>
REC'D: 4/30/02, 5:48 PM

I, too, enjoyed If the South had Won the Civil War when I read it in high
school, too many years ago to say! I have kept my dog-eared copy and am
pleased that it is being reprinted.

Jeanne Etling
Dundee (IL) Township Public Library District
----- Original Message -----

> "If the South had Won the Civil War". The correct spelling is MacKinlay
Kantor.
> Bradley A. Scott

FROM: Amal Altoma <[removed]@monroe.lib.in.us>
REC'D: 4/30/02, 6:19 PM

Here is a new title: LION'S BLOOD(a novel of slavery and freedom in an
alternate America) by Steven Barns

A. Altoma
Monroe County PL
Bloomington, Indiana

FROM: "christine jeffords" <[removed]@hotmail.com>
REC'D: 4/30/02, 8:24 PM

Just about anything by Harry Turtledove.

Mike Resnick's anthology series--"Alternate Kennedys," "Alternate Outlaws,"
"Alternate Presidents," etc.

Poul Anderson's "A Midsummer Tempest," "Operation Chaos" (and new suequel
"Operation Luna"), and "Three Hearts and Three Lions."

Michael Kurland's "The Whenabouts of Burr."

Keith Laumer's Lafayette O'Leary series.

And many more.

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FROM: "christine jeffords" <[removed]@hotmail.com>
REC'D: 4/30/02, 8:24 PM

>From: Bradley A Scott <[removed]@juno.com>
>Reply-To: "Fiction_L" <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>To: Fiction_L <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>Subject: Re: Alternate history
>Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:03:23 -0400
>
>Here are a couple I've recently read or revisited:
>
>McKinlay Kantor's "If the South had Won the Civil War" was my first
>experience of this type of fiction, and it remains an interesting book.

Also Ward Moore's "Bring the Jubilee."

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FROM: "rsfenn" <[removed]@illinoisalumni.org>
REC'D: 5/1/02, 11:08 AM

I recently read "Peshawar Lancers" by S.M. Stirling and loved it. This is most of the Library Journal description/review:

"In 1878, a deadly asteroid shower decimates the population of the Northern Hemisphere and forces the relocation of the British Empire to its southern colonies in India, Australia, and South Africa. Two centuries later, when the British Raj faces deadly threats from rival empires, the crown prince places his trust and the fate of the empire in the hands of a young officer in the Peshawar Lancers and his twin sister, a brilliant and innovative scientist. The author...has written a remarkable alternate history. Stirling's impeccable research infuses both plot and characters with depth and verisimilitude, creating a tale of high adventure, romance, and intrigue..."
Copyright 2002 Cahners Business Information, Inc.

Becky Fenn
Bemis Public Library
Littleton, CO

FROM: "Bliss Matteson" <[removed]@CI.Cambridge.MA.US>
REC'D: 5/1/02, 2:42 PM

Here's another Civil War aternative history. Robert
Skimin wrote a book called Gray Victory (1988) in
which the South had won the Civil War and Jeb
Stuart is facing a trial/tribunal for his actions at
Gettysburg. An interesting "what if..."

Bliss Matteson

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FROM: Andrew Smith <[removed]@mail.wrl.org>
REC'D: 5/1/02, 4:18 PM

i just came across Peter Ackroyd's *Milton in America* and *The Plato
Papers*. Neither is specifically catalogued as alternative history, but
John Milton as a Puritan magistrate in the bay colony, and
misinterpretations of world history from AD 1500 to 2300 based on
incomplete archaelogical fragments could definitely be construed that way.

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Williamsburg Regional Library (757) 259-4050
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On Wed, 1 May 2002, Bliss Matteson wrote:

>
> Here's another Civil War aternative history. Robert
> Skimin wrote a book called Gray Victory (1988) in
> which the South had won the Civil War and Jeb
> Stuart is facing a trial/tribunal for his actions at
> Gettysburg. An interesting "what if..."
>
> Bliss Matteson
>
> _________________________________________________________
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> Collection Development [removed]@ci.cambridge.ma.us
> Cambridge Public Library
> Cambridge MA 02138
>
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FROM: Carrie Herrmann <[removed]@bcpl.org>
REC'D: 5/1/02, 5:04 PM

S. M. Stirling has a wonderful alternate history trilogy that transports
modern dat Nantucket and a Coast Guard ship into the Bronze Age
Island in the sea of time
Against the tide of years
On the oceans of eternity

Also Kirk Mitchell has written Procurator. This supposes that the Roman
Empire did not fall.

Carrie A. Herrmann
Access Services Coordinator
Boone County Public Library
859-384-5550 (phone)
859-394-5557 (fax)
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FROM: "christine jeffords" <[removed]@hotmail.com>
REC'D: 5/1/02, 7:02 PM

>From: Carrie Herrmann <[removed]@bcpl.org>
>Reply-To: "Fiction_L" <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>To: Fiction_L <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>Subject: RE: alternate history
>Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 17:52:34 -0400
>
>
>Also Kirk Mitchell has written Procurator. This supposes that the Roman
>Empire did not fall.
>

Actually this title is one of a series--I own them and there are at least
three. They're all packed at present, though--I'm moving.

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FROM: "Sharon Custer" <[removed]@alpha.clarion-net.com>
REC'D: 5/2/02, 9:11 AM

One of my all time favorite alternate history writers is Eric Flint. His
current titles are:

1632 (electronic copy available for free at http://www.baen.com/library
listed under his name.)

and a series co-authored with David Drake:

Belisarius series:
1. An Oblique Approach (electronic copy available for free at
http://www.baen.com/library listed under his and Drake's names.)
2. In The Heart Of Darkness (electronic copy available for free at
http://www.baen.com/library listed under his and Drake's names.)
3. Destiny's Shield (electronic copy available for free at
http://www.baen.com/library listed under his and Drake's names.)
4. Fortune's Stroke
5. Tide of Victory

The final volume in the series should be out some time in 2003.

Sharon Custer
Eccles-Lesher Memorial Library
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FAX: (814) 473-8200
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deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

FROM: "Warner, Deb" <[removed]@co.durham.nc.us>
REC'D: 5/2/02, 12:16 PM

I'm going through a big streak of these myself at the moment
Strong votes for the already mentioned YEARS OF RICE AND SALT Kim Stanley
Robinson
LION'S BLOOD
Stephen Barnes

For those who hate that the Indians lost:
Kurt Giambastiani THE YEAR THE CLOUD FELL involves Custer's son and
unusual domesticated animals employed by the Indians he has a sequel but
we haven't gotten it in yet, something about "THUNDER"
Jake Page APACHERIA they drove the settlers out and establish
their own nation in the Western US
Gregory Keyes's Age Of Unreason series: NEWTON'S CANNON
Benjamin Franklin, Newton, CACULUS OF ANGELS
BlackBeard, Voltaire,and a host of EMPIRE OF UNREASON
others, also includes a nasty comet SHADOWS OF GOD
that strikes London
more later

FROM: Kathy Mitchum <[removed]@ckls.org>
REC'D: 5/10/02, 12:38 PM

I've been on vacation, so this is late. Two other alternate history authors
would be:

Card, Orson Scott. His "Tales of Alvin Maker" series
Early America retold with fantasy elements.

Wingrove, David. His "Chung Kuo" series.
A future when China's culture has become dominant throughout Earth.

Kathy Mitchum
ILL/Ref/Rural Serv/Tech Serv, Dept. Head
Central Kansas Library System
1409 Williams
Great Bend, KS 67530

(620-792-4865) phone
(620-792-5495) fax

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