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FROM: Thelma Stone <[removed]@fortworthlibrary.org>
REC'D: 2/9/01, 6:02 PM

Mercedes Lackey's Valdemar series would qualify - the horselike
Companions, the gryphons, the Hawkbrothers.

It is an older paperback, but Emma Bull's War of the Oaks has a pooka
who is a large black dog much of the time.

I haven't read it yet but Eve Forward's Animist looks like it might be
another possibility.

FROM: Dennis Lien <[removed]@tc.umn.edu>
REC'D: 2/9/01, 6:13 PM

At 04:19 PM 2/9/01 -0600, you wrote:
>
>
>> This is "Castle Roogna" by Piers Anthony, third (and possibly best) of the
>> Xanth series. Anyway I loved it!
>
>If people would post ADULT books with animals conversing with each other
>or humans, I will compile it.


A good but little-known one already exists:

Database: WorldCat
Ownership: Check the catalogs in your library.
Libraries that Own Item: 1
Title: An anthropomorphic bibliography /
Author(s): Patten, Fred,; 1940-
Publication: Cupertino, Calif. : YARF!,
Edition: 2nd ed.
Year: 1996
Description: iv, 59 p. : p., ill. ;, 28 cm.
Language: English
SUBJECT(S)
Descriptor: Anthropomorphism in literature --
Bibliography.
Animals in literature -- Bibliography.
Note(s): Includes index.
Class Descrpt: LC: PN56.A64
Responsibility: compiled and annotated by Fred Patten.
Document Type: Book
Entry: 19980728
Update: 19980728
Accession No: OCLC: 39559815

This was available from Fred Patten at Box 1299 / Cupertino CA 95015 a
couple of years ago for (if I recall correctly) $5. Actually it was/is
out in a third edition. Not sure if it's still available, but if not
Fred's probably working on a 4th edition.

Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // [removed]@tc.umn.edu

FROM: Vicki Novak - LIBRARYX <[removed]@MAIL.MARICOPA.GOV>
REC'D: 2/9/01, 6:13 PM

Here are some talking animal books for adults:

Tailchaser's song by Tad Williams (cats)
Empire of the ants by Bernard Werber (ants)
Raptor red by Robert Bakker (dinosaurs)
Anonymous Rex: a detective story by Eric Garcia (dinosaurs)
Lives of the monster dogs by Kirsten Bakis (dogs)


Vicki Novak
[removed]@mail.maricopa.gov

Adult Services
North Central Regional Library
Maricopa County Library District
17811 N. 32nd St.
Phoenix, AZ 85032-1201

http://mcld.maricopa.gov

FROM: Jeanne Etling <[removed]@ccs.nsls.lib.il.us>
REC'D: 2/9/01, 6:13 PM

> This is "Castle Roogna" by Piers Anthony, third (and possibly best) of the
> Xanth series. Anyway I loved it!

If people would post ADULT books with animals conversing with each other
or humans, I will compile it. So far I have

The Autobiography of Foudini M Cat by S F Schaeffer
No One noticed the cat by Mercedes Lackey
The Bear went over the mountain by Kotzwinkle
Watership Down by Richard Adams
Tales of Watership Down by Richard Adams
Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Grahame
Crow and Weasel by B H Lopez
Mrs. Murphy mysteries by Rita Mae & Sneaky Pie Brown
Midnight Louie mysteries by Carole Nelson Douglas

I'm planning on not including the Cat Who mysteries since it only seems
like Koko knows he's communicating, though I could list it last, I
suppose.

Any titles are appreciated.

Jeanne Etling
Dundee (IL) Township Public Library District

FROM: Dennis Lien <[removed]@tc.umn.edu>
REC'D: 2/9/01, 6:23 PM

At 04:19 PM 2/9/01 -0600, you wrote:

>If people would post ADULT books with animals conversing with each other
>or humans, I will compile it.

Followup: see also

http://www.anvil.demon.co.uk/furry-novel-update.txt

http://faqs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/furry/novels/part1

http://faqs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/furry/novels/part2

http://faqs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/furry/novels/part3

These are a mixed bag of adult and adolescent (but not younger
children's, I think) anthropomorphic sf/f novels; they do however
include alien humanoids that resemble earth animals as well as
"real" animals. Still worth a look....

Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // [removed]@tc.umn.edu

FROM: "Georgine Olson" <[removed]@fnsb.lib.ak.us>
REC'D: 2/9/01, 8:15 PM

Jeanne -

NO ONE NOTICED THE CAT is by Anne McCaffrey, not Lackey - and wouldn't
McCaffrey's Pern dragons fit here, too - or should we stick to "talking"
talking rather than mental telepathy?

Georgine N. Olson

Outreach Services Manager
Fairbanks North Star Borough Public Library & Regional Center
1215 Cowles Street
Fairbanks AK 99701

ph: (907) 459-1020 fax: (907) 459-1024
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From: Jeanne Etling <[removed]@ccs.nsls.lib.il.us>
To: Fiction_L <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 1:19 PM
Subject: Talk to the animals/ was talking spider


>
>
> > This is "Castle Roogna" by Piers Anthony, third (and possibly best) of
the
> > Xanth series. Anyway I loved it!
>
> If people would post ADULT books with animals conversing with each other
> or humans, I will compile it. So far I have
>
> The Autobiography of Foudini M Cat by S F Schaeffer
> No One noticed the cat by Mercedes Lackey
> The Bear went over the mountain by Kotzwinkle
> Watership Down by Richard Adams
> Tales of Watership Down by Richard Adams
> Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Grahame
> Crow and Weasel by B H Lopez
> Mrs. Murphy mysteries by Rita Mae & Sneaky Pie Brown
> Midnight Louie mysteries by Carole Nelson Douglas
>
> I'm planning on not including the Cat Who mysteries since it only seems
> like Koko knows he's communicating, though I could list it last, I
> suppose.
>
> Any titles are appreciated.
>
> Jeanne Etling
> Dundee (IL) Township Public Library District
>
>
>
>
>
> ......................................................................
> Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
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FROM: Sharon Weinberg <[removed]@nslsilus.org>
REC'D: 2/9/01, 9:07 PM

Can you use animal memoirs? A Dog's Life by Peter Mayle and Buster's
Diaries by Roy Hattersley are two that come to mind.
Sharon

At 04:19 PM 02/09/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>
>
>> This is "Castle Roogna" by Piers Anthony, third (and possibly best) of the
>> Xanth series. Anyway I loved it!
>
>If people would post ADULT books with animals conversing with each other
>or humans, I will compile it. So far I have
>
>The Autobiography of Foudini M Cat by S F Schaeffer
>No One noticed the cat by Mercedes Lackey
>The Bear went over the mountain by Kotzwinkle
>Watership Down by Richard Adams
>Tales of Watership Down by Richard Adams
>Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Grahame
>Crow and Weasel by B H Lopez
>Mrs. Murphy mysteries by Rita Mae & Sneaky Pie Brown
>Midnight Louie mysteries by Carole Nelson Douglas
>
>I'm planning on not including the Cat Who mysteries since it only seems
>like Koko knows he's communicating, though I could list it last, I
>suppose.
>
>Any titles are appreciated.
>
>Jeanne Etling
>Dundee (IL) Township Public Library District
>
>
>
>
>
>......................................................................
>Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
>Everything Fiction_L: http://www.webrary.org/rs/flmenu.html
>
>
Sharon Weinberg, Readers Services Librarian
Skokie Public Library
(847)673-7774
[removed]@skokie.lib.il.us
http://www.skokie.lib.il.us

Opinions expressed are personal and do not necessarily reflect the views of
the Board of the Skokie Public Library.

FROM: Madeline Guzman <[removed]@CapAccess.org>
REC'D: 2/9/01, 9:28 PM

In the novel _Certifiably Insane (by Arthur Bahr), the main character has
a pet dog named Tupelo who talks to him. Very interesting book, by the
way.

Madeline

Madeline T. Guzman
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Don't ask why!

FROM: [removed]@aol.com
REC'D: 2/10/01, 1:46 AM

You might want to include Paul Gallico's The Abandoned, in which a little boy
is injured and awakes as a cat. In his cat identity, he of course converses
with other felines. One of my favorite lines from the book is the sage
advice one of the cats gives the little boy about "catdom:" "When in doubt -
wash."

Binnie Syril Braunstein
romance novelist/former librarian, always hoping for a PG (Paul Gallico)
renaisssance

FROM: "Kathy Loucks" <[removed]@cml.lib.oh.us>
REC'D: 2/10/01, 9:40 AM

Shirley Rousseau Murphy's Joe Grey mysteries feature talking cats. Richard Adams' Traveller, Leigh Rutledge's Diary of a Cat, and I believe Leon Rooke's Shakespeare's Dog, are written as if the animals are telling the story. Adams' Plague Dogs also features dogs talking to one another.

Kathleen Loucks
Columbus Metropolitan Library
Columbus, OH

FROM: "Alison Hendon" <[removed]@vabish.com>
REC'D: 2/10/01, 9:51 AM

Summon the Keeper by Tanya Huff
Fire-Bringer (don't have the author) - a sentient tribe of deer and
other animals

Alison Hendon


> Jeanne -
>
> NO ONE NOTICED THE CAT is by Anne McCaffrey, not Lackey - and wouldn't
> McCaffrey's Pern dragons fit here, too - or should we stick to "talking"
> talking rather than mental telepathy?
>
> Georgine N. Olson
>
> Outreach Services Manager
> Fairbanks North Star Borough Public Library & Regional Center
> 1215 Cowles Street
> Fairbanks AK 99701
>
> ph: (907) 459-1020 fax: (907) 459-1024
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeanne Etling <[removed]@ccs.nsls.lib.il.us>
> To: Fiction_L <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 1:19 PM
> Subject: Talk to the animals/ was talking spider
>
>
> >
> >
> > > This is "Castle Roogna" by Piers Anthony, third (and possibly best) of
> the
> > > Xanth series. Anyway I loved it!
> >
> > If people would post ADULT books with animals conversing with each other
> > or humans, I will compile it. So far I have
> >
> > The Autobiography of Foudini M Cat by S F Schaeffer
> > No One noticed the cat by Mercedes Lackey
> > The Bear went over the mountain by Kotzwinkle
> > Watership Down by Richard Adams
> > Tales of Watership Down by Richard Adams
> > Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Grahame
> > Crow and Weasel by B H Lopez
> > Mrs. Murphy mysteries by Rita Mae & Sneaky Pie Brown
> > Midnight Louie mysteries by Carole Nelson Douglas
> >
> > I'm planning on not including the Cat Who mysteries since it only seems
> > like Koko knows he's communicating, though I could list it last, I
> > suppose.
> >
> > Any titles are appreciated.
> >
> > Jeanne Etling
> > Dundee (IL) Township Public Library District
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ......................................................................
> > Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
> > Everything Fiction_L: http://www.webrary.org/rs/flmenu.html
>
>
> ......................................................................
> Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
> Everything Fiction_L: http://www.webrary.org/rs/flmenu.html
>


Alison Hendon
[removed]@vabish.com

"Though my soul may set in darkness,
It will rise in perfect light,
I have loved the stars too fondly
To be fearful of the night...."
- Sarah Williams, "The Old Astronomer to His Pupil"

FROM: Sherri Lazenby <[removed]@dallaslibrary.org>
REC'D: 2/10/01, 10:53 AM

Two books by Diane Duane come to mind: Book of Night with Moon and the
sequel To Visit the Queen. Both with talking cats who are wizards and
talking dinosaurs.

Sherri

Sherri L. Lazenby
[removed]@dallaslibrary.org <[removed]@dallaslibrary.org>
Branch Manager
Audelia Road Branch Library
Dallas Public Library System
10045 Audelia Road
Dallas, TX 75238
(214) 670-1350
(214) 670-0790 FAX

FROM: "Sharon Custer" <[removed]@alpha.clarion-net.com>
REC'D: 2/10/01, 11:14 AM

The Catfantastic series (edited by Andre Norton, there are currently 5
volumes) is a collection of short stories which feature cats, most of
whom talk.

You might also include the Ghatti's tale series by Gayle Greeno. They
feature a race of intelligent cats.

Sharon Custer
Eccles-Lesher Memorial Library
673 Main Street
PO Box 359
Rimersburg, PA 16248
(814) 473-3800
FAX: (814) 473-8200
[removed]@alpha.clarion-net.com

FROM: Suzanne Booker <[removed]@monroe.lib.in.us>
REC'D: 2/10/01, 11:35 AM

A new one is "Buster's Diaries: A True Story of a Dog and His Man" by Roy
Hattersley. Another new dog diary is "A Dog's Guide to Life" by
Handelman.

FROM: Melissa Norton <[removed]@yahoo.com>
REC'D: 2/10/01, 7:59 PM

THE AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF FOUDINI M. CAT by Susan Fromberg
Schaeffer

WATERSHIP DOWN & TALES FROM WATERSHIP DOWN by Richard
Adams

Melissa

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FROM: "christine jeffords" <[removed]@hotmail.com>
REC'D: 2/11/01, 11:45 AM

Did anyone mention "Watership Down" yet?
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FROM: "Batraxos" <[removed]@worldnet.att.net>
REC'D: 2/11/01, 3:46 PM

I'm not sure if it's adult or young adult, but I liked it, but in "The
Spellsinger" series by Alan Dean Foster, all of the animals talk.

E.M.M.
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From: Jeanne Etling <[removed]@ccs.nsls.lib.il.us>
To: Fiction_L <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
Date: Friday, February 09, 2001 6:03 PM
Subject: Talk to the animals/ was talking spider


>
>
>> This is "Castle Roogna" by Piers Anthony, third (and possibly best) of
the
>> Xanth series. Anyway I loved it!
>
>If people would post ADULT books with animals conversing with each other
>or humans, I will compile it. So far I have
>
>The Autobiography of Foudini M Cat by S F Schaeffer
>No One noticed the cat by Mercedes Lackey
>The Bear went over the mountain by Kotzwinkle
>Watership Down by Richard Adams
>Tales of Watership Down by Richard Adams
>Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Grahame
>Crow and Weasel by B H Lopez
>Mrs. Murphy mysteries by Rita Mae & Sneaky Pie Brown
>Midnight Louie mysteries by Carole Nelson Douglas
>
>I'm planning on not including the Cat Who mysteries since it only seems
>like Koko knows he's communicating, though I could list it last, I
>suppose.
>
>Any titles are appreciated.
>
>Jeanne Etling
>Dundee (IL) Township Public Library District
>
>
>
>
>
>......................................................................
>Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
>Everything Fiction_L: http://www.webrary.org/rs/flmenu.html

FROM: Dierdre Morley <[removed]@tln.lib.mi.us>
REC'D: 2/11/01, 8:37 PM

I checked the archives and didn't see these yet:

Animal Farm - Orwell

Not sure if these qualify:
Tarzan - Burroughs
The Silent Miaow - Paul Gallico, which is written by a cat as a guide to
kittens and stray cats.

HTH,

Dierdre Morley
Northville District Library
Northville, MI

FROM: "christine jeffords" <[removed]@hotmail.com>
REC'D: 2/12/01, 8:02 AM

>From: Dierdre Morley <[removed]@tln.lib.mi.us>
>Reply-To: "Fiction_L" <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>To: Fiction_L <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>CC: [removed]@maillist.webrary.org
>Subject: Re: Talk to the animals/was talking spider
>Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:27:32 -0500 (EST)
>
>I checked the archives and didn't see these yet:
>
>Animal Farm - Orwell
>
>Not sure if these qualify:
>Tarzan - Burroughs
>The Silent Miaow - Paul Gallico, which is written by a cat as a guide to
>kittens and stray cats.
>

Don't forget Gallico's other book, "The Abandoned," in which a little boy is
transformed into a cat and is taught how to behave by an "older lady."

And although these are written for children, I love them too: Ursula K.
LeGuin's four volumes of the "Catwings" series.
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FROM: "Marla" <[removed]@orion.mtgr.mtlib.org>
REC'D: 2/12/01, 8:32 AM

I second THE PLAGUE DOGS by R. Adams. (I enjoyed this more
than the rabbits. I especially liked how the dogs viewed humans
going to the mailbox as a parallel behavior of dogs sniffing &
gathering at "pee" spots.)

Also, DUNCTON WOOD by William Horwood features talking
moles similar to WATERSHIP DOWN but good in a different way.

BYE!

Marla/Great Falls Public Library/Acquisitions
301 2nd Ave N
Great Falls MT 59401-2593
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Early is the name of the first, the next Too Fastidiously,
the third, Too Freely; the fourth is called Too Much, the
fifth Too Often.
I talk about them only briefly, because I have no fear that
you feed them. The Anchoress' Rule (c.1220)

FROM: [removed]@aol.com
REC'D: 2/12/01, 1:25 PM

Top Dog and Dog Eat Dog by Jerry Jay Carroll might fill the bill-main character is human in this world, a dog in another.

FROM: "Liberty Municipal Library" <[removed]@imsday.com>
REC'D: 2/13/01, 1:19 PM

Sherri Tepper's Family Tree includes talking animals and was not included on
the website to which Dennis so graciously directed us.

FROM: Karen Migaldi <[removed]@nslsilus.org>
REC'D: 2/13/01, 2:55 PM

For the cat lover's out there:

The Lighthouse, the Cat and the Sea: A Tropical Tale - Leigh W. Rutledge
The Wild Road by Gabriel King and its sequel The Golden Cat.

Karen Migaldi
Crystal Lake P.L.
Crystal Lake, IL


Jeanne Etling wrote:
>
> > This is "Castle Roogna" by Piers Anthony, third (and possibly best) of the
> > Xanth series. Anyway I loved it!
>
> If people would post ADULT books with animals conversing with each other
> or humans, I will compile it. So far I have
>
> The Autobiography of Foudini M Cat by S F Schaeffer
> No One noticed the cat by Mercedes Lackey
> The Bear went over the mountain by Kotzwinkle
> Watership Down by Richard Adams
> Tales of Watership Down by Richard Adams
> Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Grahame
> Crow and Weasel by B H Lopez
> Mrs. Murphy mysteries by Rita Mae & Sneaky Pie Brown
> Midnight Louie mysteries by Carole Nelson Douglas
>
> I'm planning on not including the Cat Who mysteries since it only seems
> like Koko knows he's communicating, though I could list it last, I
> suppose.
>
> Any titles are appreciated.
>
> Jeanne Etling
> Dundee (IL) Township Public Library District
>
> ......................................................................
> Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
> Everything Fiction_L: http://www.webrary.org/rs/flmenu.html

FROM: [removed]@aol.com
REC'D: 2/14/01, 3:15 PM

Holy cow! What about Alice in Wonderland? Doesn't the White Rabbit yak?
Feel free jump in anyone - as I admit that I've never read A in W.

Binnie Syril Braunstein
romance novelist/former librarian

FROM: "Brad Scott" <[removed]@ci.allen.tx.us>
REC'D: 2/14/01, 3:25 PM

I haven't read it, since I just happened to see it on our shelves yesterday, but Scott Bradfield's "Animal Planet" looks like it involves talking animals. Booklist described it as "a funny, penetrating satire" involving an "animal revolt against human oppression."

Bradley A. Scott
Allen (Texas) PUblic Library

** All opinions are personal. **

FROM: "christine jeffords" <[removed]@hotmail.com>
REC'D: 2/15/01, 8:06 AM

>From: "Brad Scott" <[removed]@ci.allen.tx.us>
>Reply-To: "Fiction_L" <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>To: Fiction_L <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>Subject: Re: Talk to the animals/ was talking spider
>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:08:12 -0600
>
>I haven't read it, since I just happened to see it on our shelves
>yesterday, but Scott Bradfield's "Animal Planet" looks like it involves
>talking animals. Booklist described it as "a funny, penetrating satire"
>involving an "animal revolt against human oppression."
>
>

Speaking of satires and oppression, has anyone mentioned "Animal Farm"?
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FROM: "Deb Warner" <[removed]@co.durham.nc.us>
REC'D: 2/16/01, 7:14 AM

I don't remember seeing this one mentioned, but it was one of the funniest
books I've read in a while: FRISCO PIGEON MAMBO by C.D. Payne
A group of pigeons is "liberated" (much to their distress) from a lab.
The story is told by one of them. Among their other problems, they think
they are human, have to learn to fly and are addicted to cigarettes and
alcohol. Along their way they are joined by a street/skywise parakeet, a
seagul and a peregrine falcon...

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