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FROM: "Margaret Dunn" <[removed]@caledon.library.on.ca>
REC'D: 1/25/01, 2:37 PM
Donna
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REC'D: 1/25/01, 2:44 PM
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-----Original Message-----
From: Margaret Dunn [[removed]@caledon.library.on.ca]
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 6:25 PM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: early mystery writers
One of the other librarians is doing a booktalk on gentle
cozy mysteries at our local senior's club. She is looking for Agatha
Christie era gentle cozy writers to use. Any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated.
Thank you in advance
Donna
[removed]@caledon.library.on.ca
FROM: Mary Van Dyke <[removed]@CLSN3046.glenview.lib.il.us>
REC'D: 1/25/01, 2:58 PM
Mary Van Dyke
Glenview (IL) Public Library
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Margaret Dunn wrote:
> One of the other librarians is doing a booktalk on gentle
> cozy mysteries at our local senior's club. She is looking for Agatha
> Christie era gentle cozy writers to use. Any suggestions would be greatly
> appreciated.
> Thank you in advance
>
> Donna
> [removed]@caledon.library.on.ca
>
>
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FROM: Dennis Lien <[removed]@tc.umn.edu>
REC'D: 1/25/01, 3:11 PM
And Elizabeth Daly, since Christie somewhere cites as her own favorite
mystery writer. And scads of people listed under "Followers of Mary
Roberts Rinehart" or under "The Golden Age: Intuitionist School" at
http://members.aol.com/MG4273/classics.htm
(but I think he's extremely unfair to Clayton Rawson)
Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // [removed]@tc.umn.edu
FROM: "Gena Zelenka" <[removed]@park-ridge.lib.il.us>
REC'D: 1/25/01, 3:30 PM
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From: [removed]@maillist.webrary.org
[[removed]@maillist.webrary.org]On Behalf Of Margaret Dunn
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 5:25 PM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: early mystery writers
One of the other librarians is doing a booktalk on gentle
cozy mysteries at our local senior's club. She is looking for Agatha
Christie era gentle cozy writers to use. Any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated.
Thank you in advance
Donna
[removed]@caledon.library.on.ca
FROM: "Marsha Valance " <[removed]@mpl.org>
REC'D: 1/25/01, 3:44 PM
Marsha Valance
Regional Librarian
Wisconsin Regional Library f/t Blind & Physically Handicapped
813 West Wells St.
Milwaukee, WI 53233
<[removed]@mpl.org>
>>> [removed]@caledon.library.on.ca 01/25/01 05:24PM >>>
One of the other librarians is doing a booktalk on gentle
cozy mysteries at our local senior's club. She is looking for Agatha
Christie era gentle cozy writers to use. Any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated.
Thank you in advance
Donna
[removed]@caledon.library.on.ca
FROM: "Mary Rindfleisch" <[removed]@biblio.org>
REC'D: 1/25/01, 5:07 PM
Mary Rindfleisch
Adult Services/Readers' Advisory Librarian
Ridgefield Library
472 Main St.
Ridgefield, CT 06877
Phone: 203-438-2282
e-mail: [removed]@biblio.org
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From: [removed]@maillist.webrary.org
[[removed]@maillist.webrary.org]On Behalf Of Margaret Dunn
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 6:25 PM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: early mystery writers
One of the other librarians is doing a booktalk on gentle
cozy mysteries at our local senior's club. She is looking for Agatha
Christie era gentle cozy writers to use. Any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated.
Thank you in advance
Donna
[removed]@caledon.library.on.ca
FROM: [removed]@aol.com
REC'D: 1/26/01, 12:52 AM
<<
One of the other librarians is doing a booktalk on gentle
cozy mysteries at our local senior's club. She is looking for Agatha
Christie era gentle cozy writers to use. Any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated.
Thank you in advance
Donna
[removed]@caledon.library.on.ca
>>
You could suggest Ellery Queen, SS Van Dine, Rex Stout's Nero Wolfe, The Thin
Man Series, Maurice Le Blanc (Arsene Lupin), the Fu Manchu series, Dorothy L.
Sayers. There are several wonderful mystery bibliographies that might be
helpful, among them Barzun and Taylor's Catalogue of Crime.
Binnie Syril Braunstein
romance novelist/former librarian
FROM: [removed]@aol.com
REC'D: 1/26/01, 12:53 AM
And if you want to use contemporary examples of cozies - there are legions!
Binnie Syril Braunstein
romance novelist/former librarian
FROM: [removed]@aol.com
REC'D: 1/26/01, 12:57 AM
Binnie Syril Braunstein
romance novelist/former librarian
FROM: [removed]@aol.com
REC'D: 1/26/01, 1:04 AM
<<
At 02:59 PM 1/25/01 -0600, you wrote:
> Try Ngio Marsh, Patricia Wentworth, Margery Allingham, and Dorothy
> Sayers <snip
And Elizabeth Daly, since Christie somewhere cites as her own favorite
mystery writer. And scads of people listed under "Followers of Mary
Roberts Rinehart" or under "The Golden Age: Intuitionist School" at
http://members.aol.com/MG4273/classics.htm
(but I think he's extremely unfair to Clayton Rawson)
Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // [removed]@tc.umn.edu
>>
I agree with Dennis. The website he notes above is an absolute treasure
trove to mystery hunters. Click on it and you may have your problem solved!
Binnie Syril Braunstein
romance novelist/former librarian
FROM: Merle Jacob <[removed]@chipublib.org>
REC'D: 1/26/01, 11:19 AM
FROM: "Barbara Scanio" <[removed]@gwmail.plano.gov>
REC'D: 1/26/01, 5:41 PM
FROM: "Barbara Scanio" <[removed]@gwmail.plano.gov>
REC'D: 1/26/01, 5:44 PM
FROM: Kelly Marszycki <[removed]@rcn.com>
REC'D: 1/29/01, 9:52 AM
Kelly Marszycki
Merle Jacob wrote:
> While it is wonderful to recommend the early mystery writers from the
> Golden Age of mysteries, please remember that many of these writers
> often have racial, religious, and ethnic stereotypes that many today
> find offensive. The 1920s and 1930s were very accurately protrayed in
> Agatha Christie's mysteries but she also brings out the attitudes and
> prejudices of that society so be aware of this and know the audience you
> are recommending them to. They are fun to read and very clean but not
> always nice. Just a note from someone who often recommends these books
> and has read them all. When I do readers advisory talks, I often
> mention this since people have ithe impression from the PBS mystery show
> that all the books are sweet. PBS Mystery has taken out the offensive
> parts. Hope this helps
> Merle Jacob
> Director of Library Collection Development
> Chicago Public Library
> 400 S. State St.
> Chicago, Il. 60605
>
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FROM: Dennis Lien <[removed]@tc.umn.edu>
REC'D: 1/29/01, 10:39 AM
True, of course, but equally true of the works of Shakespeare, Homer,
Chaucer, Dickens, etc. down through the anonymous authors of nursery
rhymes and jokes. It's only in recent Enlightened times that we have
achieved the noble state of producing literature which is absolutely
incapable of offending anyone under any circumstances (heavy sarcasm
alert). I don't see that Golden Age mysteries average any more
offensive than any other literature of their period (or of earlier or
later periods) to the extent of requiring special warnings....
Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // [removed]@tc.umn.edu
FROM: "Laura McCaffery" <[removed]@acpl.lib.in.us>
REC'D: 1/29/01, 10:39 AM
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Laura Hibbets McCaffery
Readers Services
Allen County Public Library
Fort Wayne, Indiana
"All opinions are mine alone. Others are
free to agree..or disagree."
"...all things are to to be examined and called into question. There
are no limits set to thought." Edith Hamilton, THE GREEK WAY.
FROM: Merle Jacob <[removed]@chipublib.org>
REC'D: 1/29/01, 5:31 PM
Laura McCaffery wrote:
> Thank you, Dennis. I certainly agree. I have oft wondered how we
> can ever hope to understand anything and/or anyone through its
> literature or historical writings if it is sanitized, bowdlerized and run
> through a nanny filter. Perhaps we could call it bubbleized lit?
> Does anyone else recall the wonderful Stan Freeberg jab at
> censorship (radio then) through the rendition of OLD MAN RIVER,
> ahem, make that ELDERLY MAN RIVER. Does anyone else
> remember Stan Freeberg? lmc >
> > >Merle Jacob wrote:
> > >
> > >> While it is wonderful to recommend the early mystery writers from
> > >> the Golden Age of mysteries, please remember that many of these
> > >> writers often have racial, religious, and ethnic stereotypes that
> > >> many today find offensive. <snip>
> >
> > True, of course, but equally true of the works of Shakespeare, Homer,
> > Chaucer, Dickens, etc. down through the anonymous authors of nursery
> > rhymes and jokes. It's only in recent Enlightened times that we have
> > achieved the noble state of producing literature which is absolutely
> > incapable of offending anyone under any circumstances (heavy sarcasm
> > alert). I don't see that Golden Age mysteries average any more
> > offensive than any other literature of their period (or of earlier or
> > later periods) to the extent of requiring special warnings....
> >
> > Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // [removed]@tc.umn.edu
> >
> > ......................................................................
> > Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives? Everything
> > Fiction_L: http://www.webrary.org/rs/flmenu.html
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Laura Hibbets McCaffery
> Readers Services
> Allen County Public Library
> Fort Wayne, Indiana
> "All opinions are mine alone. Others are
> free to agree..or disagree."
> "...all things are to to be examined and called into question. There
> are no limits set to thought." Edith Hamilton, THE GREEK WAY.
>
> ......................................................................
> Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
> Everything Fiction_L: http://www.webrary.org/rs/flmenu.html
FROM: "Sarah Stein" <[removed]@denver.lib.co.us>
REC'D: 1/30/01, 12:15 PM
Sarah
Sarah Stein
Senior Special Collections Librarian
Denver Public Library
Denver, Colorado, USA
[removed]@denver.lib.co.us
>>> [removed]@tc.umn.edu 01/29/01 09:27AM >>>
>Merle Jacob wrote:
>
>> While it is wonderful to recommend the early mystery writers from the
>> Golden Age of mysteries, please remember that many of these writers
>> often have racial, religious, and ethnic stereotypes that many today
>> find offensive. <snip>
True, of course, but equally true of the works of Shakespeare, Homer,
Chaucer, Dickens, etc. down through the anonymous authors of nursery
rhymes and jokes. It's only in recent Enlightened times that we have
achieved the noble state of producing literature which is absolutely
incapable of offending anyone under any circumstances (heavy sarcasm
alert). I don't see that Golden Age mysteries average any more
offensive than any other literature of their period (or of earlier or
later periods) to the extent of requiring special warnings....
Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // [removed]@tc.umn.edu
FROM: Jeanne Etling <[removed]@ccs.nsls.lib.il.us>
REC'D: 1/30/01, 4:01 PM
Jeanne Etling
Dundee (IL) Township Public Library District
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