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FROM: Lucy Lockley <[removed]@mail.win.org>
REC'D: 1/30/01, 3:08 PM

I have been asked by a Librarian to pass the following request out to
Fiction_L as I told her how very helpful you folks can be with this type of
query.

She has a group of Junior/Senior high age boys who are asking for Science
Fiction titles like Douglas Adams 'Hitchhikers' titles and "Pest Control"
by Bill Fitzhugh. The young men are thinking towards college and want
funny books which have a sharp-edge to the humor. The librarian said said
they want humor which is like that in "Mad" magazine but in books. The
Librarian, herself, termed it 'sassy' humor and believes these patrons want
to be, what used to be called, 'cool' when they go off to college. :)

She has recommended the other 2 titles by Fitzhugh; "Cross Dressing" and
"Organ Grinders" and the 'Discworld' series of titles by Terry Pratchett
which were accepted with pleasure by the patrons. She has the list of
titles under 'Parody and Comedy' in the Science Fiction section of
"Genreflecting" by Diana T. Herald and thinks that "Bill the Galactic Hero"
by Harry Harrison and "Venus on the Half-Shell" by Kilgore Trout (Philip
Jose Farmer) might be good suggestions. She is even considering
recommending the Sharyn McCrumb titles "Bimbos of the Death Sun" and
"Zombies of the Gene Pool" because of the SF convention spoofing. She did
recommend the titles by Douglas Coupland such as "Generation X" or
"Microserfs", as they are funny contemporary spoofs of what life is like
today but the young men did not seem to take to those titles. She said she
thought the Coupland books may have been 'too adult' for this group.

Can anyone out there suggest some other titles? I will compile and post a
list.

Thanks in advance.

Lucy M. Lockley Phone: 636/441.2300, Ext. 1563
Collection Development Manager FAX: 636/441.3132
St. Charles City-County Library District
425 Spencer Road
P.O. Box 529 e-mail: [removed]@mail.win.org
St. Peters, MO 63376-0529 Library website: www.win.org/library

"Demons after money!?! Whatever happened to the still beating heart
of a virgin?! No one has any standards anymore!"
___ Giles ('Buffy, the Vampire Slayer')
| \
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[removed]@##########]==========================================================>
\\ | /
\\__/ / Touche!
\___ __/

FROM: Kathleen Kehoe <[removed]@umich.edu>
REC'D: 1/30/01, 3:19 PM

Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman (of the Sandman series) wrote "Good Omens" which is
very much in the writing style of "Hitchhikers" (In my opinion). Gaiman also wrote
Neverwhere.

Lucy Lockley wrote:

> I have been asked by a Librarian to pass the following request out to
> Fiction_L as I told her how very helpful you folks can be with this type of
> query.
>
> She has a group of Junior/Senior high age boys who are asking for Science
> Fiction titles like Douglas Adams 'Hitchhikers' titles and "Pest Control"
> by Bill Fitzhugh. The young men are thinking towards college and want
> funny books which have a sharp-edge to the humor. The librarian said said
> they want humor which is like that in "Mad" magazine but in books. The
> Librarian, herself, termed it 'sassy' humor and believes these patrons want
> to be, what used to be called, 'cool' when they go off to college. :)
>
> She has recommended the other 2 titles by Fitzhugh; "Cross Dressing" and
> "Organ Grinders" and the 'Discworld' series of titles by Terry Pratchett
> which were accepted with pleasure by the patrons. She has the list of
> titles under 'Parody and Comedy' in the Science Fiction section of
> "Genreflecting" by Diana T. Herald and thinks that "Bill the Galactic Hero"
> by Harry Harrison and "Venus on the Half-Shell" by Kilgore Trout (Philip
> Jose Farmer) might be good suggestions. She is even considering
> recommending the Sharyn McCrumb titles "Bimbos of the Death Sun" and
> "Zombies of the Gene Pool" because of the SF convention spoofing. She did
> recommend the titles by Douglas Coupland such as "Generation X" or
> "Microserfs", as they are funny contemporary spoofs of what life is like
> today but the young men did not seem to take to those titles. She said she
> thought the Coupland books may have been 'too adult' for this group.
>
> Can anyone out there suggest some other titles? I will compile and post a
> list.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Lucy M. Lockley Phone: 636/441.2300, Ext. 1563
> Collection Development Manager FAX: 636/441.3132
> St. Charles City-County Library District
> 425 Spencer Road
> P.O. Box 529 e-mail: [removed]@mail.win.org
> St. Peters, MO 63376-0529 Library website: www.win.org/library
>
> "Demons after money!?! Whatever happened to the still beating heart
> of a virgin?! No one has any standards anymore!"
> ___ Giles ('Buffy, the Vampire Slayer')
> | \
> | \
> [removed]@##########]==========================================================>
> \\ | /
> \\__/ / Touche!
> \___ __/
>
> ......................................................................
> Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
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FROM: Vicki Novak - LIBRARYX <[removed]@MAIL.MARICOPA.GOV>
REC'D: 1/30/01, 3:19 PM

Try "Red Dwarf: Infinity welcomes careful drivers" and "Better than life"
both by Grant Naylor

Vicki Novak
[removed]@mail.maricopa.gov

Adult Services
North Central Regional Library
Maricopa County Library District
17811 N. 32nd St.
Phoenix, AZ 85032-1201

http://mcld.maricopa.gov

FROM: genie sheth <[removed]@yahoo.com>
REC'D: 1/30/01, 3:30 PM

Red Dwarf novels by Grant Naylor
--- Lucy Lockley <[removed]@mail.win.org> wrote:
>
> I have been asked by a Librarian to pass the
> following request out to
> Fiction_L as I told her how very helpful you folks
> can be with this type of
> query.
>
> She has a group of Junior/Senior high age boys who
> are asking for Science
> Fiction titles like Douglas Adams 'Hitchhikers'
> titles and "Pest Control"
> by Bill Fitzhugh. The young men are thinking
> towards college and want
> funny books which have a sharp-edge to the humor.
> The librarian said said
> they want humor which is like that in "Mad" magazine
> but in books. The
> Librarian, herself, termed it 'sassy' humor and
> believes these patrons want
> to be, what used to be called, 'cool' when they go
> off to college. :)
>
> She has recommended the other 2 titles by Fitzhugh;
> "Cross Dressing" and
> "Organ Grinders" and the 'Discworld' series of
> titles by Terry Pratchett
> which were accepted with pleasure by the patrons.
> She has the list of
> titles under 'Parody and Comedy' in the Science
> Fiction section of
> "Genreflecting" by Diana T. Herald and thinks that
> "Bill the Galactic Hero"
> by Harry Harrison and "Venus on the Half-Shell" by
> Kilgore Trout (Philip
> Jose Farmer) might be good suggestions. She is even
> considering
> recommending the Sharyn McCrumb titles "Bimbos of
> the Death Sun" and
> "Zombies of the Gene Pool" because of the SF
> convention spoofing. She did
> recommend the titles by Douglas Coupland such as
> "Generation X" or
> "Microserfs", as they are funny contemporary spoofs
> of what life is like
> today but the young men did not seem to take to
> those titles. She said she
> thought the Coupland books may have been 'too adult'
> for this group.
>
> Can anyone out there suggest some other titles? I
> will compile and post a
> list.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Lucy M. Lockley Phone: 636/441.2300, Ext.
> 1563
> Collection Development Manager FAX:
> 636/441.3132
> St. Charles City-County Library District
> 425 Spencer Road
> P.O. Box 529 e-mail: [removed]@mail.win.org
> St. Peters, MO 63376-0529 Library website:
> www.win.org/library
>
> "Demons after money!?! Whatever happened to the
> still beating heart
> of a virgin?! No one has any standards anymore!"
>
> ___ Giles ('Buffy, the Vampire Slayer')
> | \
> | \
>
>
[removed]@##########]==========================================================>
> \\ | /
> \\__/ / Touche!
> \___ __/
>
>
......................................................................
> Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
> Everything Fiction_L:
http://www.webrary.org/rs/flmenu.html


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FROM: Dennis Lien <[removed]@tc.umn.edu>
REC'D: 1/30/01, 3:41 PM

At 02:59 PM 1/30/01 -0600, you wrote:
>
>I have been asked by a Librarian to pass the following request out to
>Fiction_L as I told her how very helpful you folks can be with this type of
>query.
>
>She has a group of Junior/Senior high age boys who are asking for Science
>Fiction titles like Douglas Adams 'Hitchhikers' titles and "Pest Control"
>by Bill Fitzhugh. The young men are thinking towards college and want
>funny books which have a sharp-edge to the humor. The librarian said said
>they want humor which is like that in "Mad" magazine but in books. The
>Librarian, herself, termed it 'sassy' humor and believes these patrons want
>to be, what used to be called, 'cool' when they go off to college. <snip>

Or perhaps "gonzo"--

Rudy Rucker
Robert Sheckley
Ron Goulart
Neal Stephenson's SNOW CRASH
Jonathan Lethem's GUN WITH OCCASIONAL MUSIC
John Sladek
Bruce Bethke's HEAD CRASH
Terry Bisson
David Prill's THE UNNATURAL
Howard Waldrop
R.A. Lafferty
Paul di Filippo


Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // [removed]@tc.umn.edu

FROM: Sarah Flowers <[removed]@scinet.co.santa-clara.ca.us>
REC'D: 1/30/01, 3:51 PM

Glory Lane, by Alan Dean Foster is a very "Mad"-like space
adventure--very funny, and a great favorite of my son and his friends
around the same time they were reading Hitchhiker, Bill the Galactic
Hero, and the Stainless Steel Rat books.


Sarah Flowers, Community Librarian
Morgan Hill Library, a Santa Clara County Library
17575 Peak Avenue/Morgan Hill, CA 95037
[removed]@scinet.co.santa-clara.ca.us

-----Original Message-----
From: Lucy Lockley [[removed]@mail.win.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 1:00 PM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: 'Sassy' Science Fiction


I have been asked by a Librarian to pass the following request out to
Fiction_L as I told her how very helpful you folks can be with this
type of
query.

She has a group of Junior/Senior high age boys who are asking for
Science
Fiction titles like Douglas Adams 'Hitchhikers' titles and "Pest
Control"
by Bill Fitzhugh. The young men are thinking towards college and want
funny books which have a sharp-edge to the humor. The librarian said
said
they want humor which is like that in "Mad" magazine but in books. The
Librarian, herself, termed it 'sassy' humor and believes these patrons
want
to be, what used to be called, 'cool' when they go off to college. :)

She has recommended the other 2 titles by Fitzhugh; "Cross Dressing"
and
"Organ Grinders" and the 'Discworld' series of titles by Terry
Pratchett
which were accepted with pleasure by the patrons. She has the list of
titles under 'Parody and Comedy' in the Science Fiction section of
"Genreflecting" by Diana T. Herald and thinks that "Bill the Galactic
Hero"
by Harry Harrison and "Venus on the Half-Shell" by Kilgore Trout
(Philip
Jose Farmer) might be good suggestions. She is even considering
recommending the Sharyn McCrumb titles "Bimbos of the Death Sun" and
"Zombies of the Gene Pool" because of the SF convention spoofing. She
did
recommend the titles by Douglas Coupland such as "Generation X" or
"Microserfs", as they are funny contemporary spoofs of what life is
like
today but the young men did not seem to take to those titles. She said
she
thought the Coupland books may have been 'too adult' for this group.

Can anyone out there suggest some other titles? I will compile and
post a
list.

Thanks in advance.

Lucy M. Lockley Phone: 636/441.2300, Ext. 1563
Collection Development Manager FAX: 636/441.3132
St. Charles City-County Library District
425 Spencer Road
P.O. Box 529 e-mail: [removed]@mail.win.org
St. Peters, MO 63376-0529 Library website: www.win.org/library

"Demons after money!?! Whatever happened to the still beating heart
of a virgin?! No one has any standards anymore!"
___ Giles ('Buffy, the Vampire Slayer')
| \
| \

[removed]@##########]====================================================
======>
\\ | /
\\__/ / Touche!
\___ __/

FROM: "Melanie C. Duncan" <[removed]@mail.bibb.public.lib.ga.us>
REC'D: 1/30/01, 4:45 PM

Lois McMaster Bujold's Vorkosigan books have a very sharp edge of humor; I
adore them.

Roger Zelazny co-wrote a couple of books, one of which is titled BRING ME
THE HEAD OF PRINCE CHARMING, that might work.

Also Diana Wynne Jones's DARK LORD OF DERKHOLM and related titles.


Sincerely,
Melanie C. Duncan, M.S.L.S.
Washington Memorial Library, Reference Librarian
Library Journal, Christian Fiction Columnist
The Bookdragon Review, Editor/Publisher
http://www.bookdragonreview.com
All opinions expressed are my own.

FROM: "Brad Scott" <[removed]@ci.allen.tx.us>
REC'D: 1/30/01, 4:45 PM

Here are a couple of possibilities in addition to the ones that others have already mentioned:

Gardner, Craig Shaw's Cineverse Cycle ("Slaves of the Volcano God", "Bride of the Slime Monster", and "Revenge of the Fluffy Bunnies"), which blends fantasy, satire, and an alternate universe based on really, really bad movies.

Robert Lynn Asprin's "Myth-adventures" series ("Myth-ing Persons", "Myth-Directions", "Little Myth Marker", etc.)

Bradley A. Scott
Allen (Texas) Public Library

** All opinions are personal. **
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Lucy Lockley <[removed]@mail.win.org>
Reply-To: "Fiction_L" <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 14:59:48 -0600

>
>I have been asked by a Librarian to pass the following request out to
>Fiction_L as I told her how very helpful you folks can be with this type of
>query.
>
>She has a group of Junior/Senior high age boys who are asking for Science
>Fiction titles like Douglas Adams 'Hitchhikers' titles and "Pest Control"
>by Bill Fitzhugh. The young men are thinking towards college and want
>funny books which have a sharp-edge to the humor. The librarian said said
>they want humor which is like that in "Mad" magazine but in books. The
>Librarian, herself, termed it 'sassy' humor and believes these patrons want
>to be, what used to be called, 'cool' when they go off to college. :)
>
>She has recommended the other 2 titles by Fitzhugh; "Cross Dressing" and
>"Organ Grinders" and the 'Discworld' series of titles by Terry Pratchett
>which were accepted with pleasure by the patrons. She has the list of
>titles under 'Parody and Comedy' in the Science Fiction section of
>"Genreflecting" by Diana T. Herald and thinks that "Bill the Galactic Hero"
>by Harry Harrison and "Venus on the Half-Shell" by Kilgore Trout (Philip
>Jose Farmer) might be good suggestions. She is even considering
>recommending the Sharyn McCrumb titles "Bimbos of the Death Sun" and
>"Zombies of the Gene Pool" because of the SF convention spoofing. She did
>recommend the titles by Douglas Coupland such as "Generation X" or
>"Microserfs", as they are funny contemporary spoofs of what life is like
>today but the young men did not seem to take to those titles. She said she
>thought the Coupland books may have been 'too adult' for this group.
>
>Can anyone out there suggest some other titles? I will compile and post a
>list.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Lucy M. Lockley Phone: 636/441.2300, Ext. 1563
>Collection Development Manager FAX: 636/441.3132
>St. Charles City-County Library District
>425 Spencer Road
>P.O. Box 529 e-mail: [removed]@mail.win.org
>St. Peters, MO 63376-0529 Library website: www.win.org/library
>
> "Demons after money!?! Whatever happened to the still beating heart
> of a virgin?! No one has any standards anymore!"
> ___ Giles ('Buffy, the Vampire Slayer')
> | \
> | \
> [removed]@##########]==========================================================>
> \\ | /
> \\__/ / Touche!
> \___ __/
>
>......................................................................
>Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
>Everything Fiction_L: http://www.webrary.org/rs/flmenu.html
>

FROM: "Jeanne Linn" <[removed]@libby.org>
REC'D: 1/30/01, 5:06 PM

How about Christopher Moore's books, "Bloodsucking fiends:a love story",
"The Lust Lizard of Melancholy Cove", and "Practical Demonkeeping: a Comedy
of Horrors". Jeanne


-----Original Message-----
From: Lucy Lockley <[removed]@mail.win.org>
To: Fiction_L <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
Date: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 1:59 PM
Subject: 'Sassy' Science Fiction


>
>I have been asked by a Librarian to pass the following request out to
>Fiction_L as I told her how very helpful you folks can be with this type of
>query.
>
>She has a group of Junior/Senior high age boys who are asking for Science
>Fiction titles like Douglas Adams 'Hitchhikers' titles and "Pest Control"
>by Bill Fitzhugh. The young men are thinking towards college and want
>funny books which have a sharp-edge to the humor. The librarian said said
>they want humor which is like that in "Mad" magazine but in books. The
>Librarian, herself, termed it 'sassy' humor and believes these patrons want
>to be, what used to be called, 'cool' when they go off to college. :)
>
>She has recommended the other 2 titles by Fitzhugh; "Cross Dressing" and
>"Organ Grinders" and the 'Discworld' series of titles by Terry Pratchett
>which were accepted with pleasure by the patrons. She has the list of
>titles under 'Parody and Comedy' in the Science Fiction section of
>"Genreflecting" by Diana T. Herald and thinks that "Bill the Galactic Hero"
>by Harry Harrison and "Venus on the Half-Shell" by Kilgore Trout (Philip
>Jose Farmer) might be good suggestions. She is even considering
>recommending the Sharyn McCrumb titles "Bimbos of the Death Sun" and
>"Zombies of the Gene Pool" because of the SF convention spoofing. She did
>recommend the titles by Douglas Coupland such as "Generation X" or
>"Microserfs", as they are funny contemporary spoofs of what life is like
>today but the young men did not seem to take to those titles. She said she
>thought the Coupland books may have been 'too adult' for this group.
>
>Can anyone out there suggest some other titles? I will compile and post a
>list.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Lucy M. Lockley Phone: 636/441.2300, Ext. 1563
>Collection Development Manager FAX: 636/441.3132
>St. Charles City-County Library District
>425 Spencer Road
>P.O. Box 529 e-mail: [removed]@mail.win.org
>St. Peters, MO 63376-0529 Library website: www.win.org/library
>
> "Demons after money!?! Whatever happened to the still beating heart
> of a virgin?! No one has any standards anymore!"
> ___ Giles ('Buffy, the Vampire Slayer')
> | \
> | \
>
[removed]@##########]==========================================================>
> \\ | /
> \\__/ / Touche!
> \___ __/
>
>......................................................................
>Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
>Everything Fiction_L: http://www.webrary.org/rs/flmenu.html
>

FROM: "Theresa L. Anderson" <[removed]@boulder.lib.co.us>
REC'D: 1/30/01, 5:06 PM

Sharyn McCrumb's "Bimbos of the Death Sun" and its sequel "Zombies of the Gene Pool" are very spoof-like. They are also considered mysteries becaus the main character is Dr. James Omega and is actually set at a science fiction convention.

Tessa

Theresa Anderson
Boulder Public Library

>>> [removed]@mail.win.org 01/30/01 01:59PM >>>

I have been asked by a Librarian to pass the following request out to
Fiction_L as I told her how very helpful you folks can be with this type of
query.

She has a group of Junior/Senior high age boys who are asking for Science
Fiction titles like Douglas Adams 'Hitchhikers' titles and "Pest Control"
by Bill Fitzhugh. The young men are thinking towards college and want
funny books which have a sharp-edge to the humor. The librarian said said
they want humor which is like that in "Mad" magazine but in books. The
Librarian, herself, termed it 'sassy' humor and believes these patrons want
to be, what used to be called, 'cool' when they go off to college. :)

She has recommended the other 2 titles by Fitzhugh; "Cross Dressing" and
"Organ Grinders" and the 'Discworld' series of titles by Terry Pratchett
which were accepted with pleasure by the patrons. She has the list of
titles under 'Parody and Comedy' in the Science Fiction section of
"Genreflecting" by Diana T. Herald and thinks that "Bill the Galactic Hero"
by Harry Harrison and "Venus on the Half-Shell" by Kilgore Trout (Philip
Jose Farmer) might be good suggestions. She is even considering
recommending the Sharyn McCrumb titles "Bimbos of the Death Sun" and
"Zombies of the Gene Pool" because of the SF convention spoofing. She did
recommend the titles by Douglas Coupland such as "Generation X" or
"Microserfs", as they are funny contemporary spoofs of what life is like
today but the young men did not seem to take to those titles. She said she
thought the Coupland books may have been 'too adult' for this group.

Can anyone out there suggest some other titles? I will compile and post a
list.

Thanks in advance.

Lucy M. Lockley Phone: 636/441.2300, Ext. 1563
Collection Development Manager FAX: 636/441.3132
St. Charles City-County Library District
425 Spencer Road
P.O. Box 529 e-mail: [removed]@mail.win.org=20
St. Peters, MO 63376-0529 Library website: www.win.org/library

"Demons after money!?! Whatever happened to the still beating heart
of a virgin?! No one has any standards anymore!"
___ Giles ('Buffy, the Vampire Slayer')
| \
| \
[removed]@##########]====================3D=========================3D=============>
\\ | /
\\__/ / Touche!
\___ __/

FROM: "Alison Hendon" <[removed]@vabish.com>
REC'D: 1/30/01, 5:21 PM

Another fantasy author who has that kind of edge for me is Tom
Holt - titles I'd recommend are Expecting Someone Taller, Who's
Afraid of Beowulf, and Flying Dutch (in that order).

HTH,
Alison

>
> I have been asked by a Librarian to pass the following request out to
> Fiction_L as I told her how very helpful you folks can be with this type of
> query.
>
> She has a group of Junior/Senior high age boys who are asking for Science
> Fiction titles like Douglas Adams 'Hitchhikers' titles and "Pest Control"
> by Bill Fitzhugh. The young men are thinking towards college and want
> funny books which have a sharp-edge to the humor. The librarian said said
> they want humor which is like that in "Mad" magazine but in books. The
> Librarian, herself, termed it 'sassy' humor and believes these patrons want
> to be, what used to be called, 'cool' when they go off to college. :)
>
> She has recommended the other 2 titles by Fitzhugh; "Cross Dressing" and
> "Organ Grinders" and the 'Discworld' series of titles by Terry Pratchett
> which were accepted with pleasure by the patrons. She has the list of
> titles under 'Parody and Comedy' in the Science Fiction section of
> "Genreflecting" by Diana T. Herald and thinks that "Bill the Galactic Hero"
> by Harry Harrison and "Venus on the Half-Shell" by Kilgore Trout (Philip
> Jose Farmer) might be good suggestions. She is even considering
> recommending the Sharyn McCrumb titles "Bimbos of the Death Sun" and
> "Zombies of the Gene Pool" because of the SF convention spoofing. She did
> recommend the titles by Douglas Coupland such as "Generation X" or
> "Microserfs", as they are funny contemporary spoofs of what life is like
> today but the young men did not seem to take to those titles. She said she
> thought the Coupland books may have been 'too adult' for this group.
>
> Can anyone out there suggest some other titles? I will compile and post a
> list.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Lucy M. Lockley Phone: 636/441.2300, Ext. 1563
> Collection Development Manager FAX: 636/441.3132
> St. Charles City-County Library District
> 425 Spencer Road
> P.O. Box 529 e-mail: [removed]@mail.win.org
> St. Peters, MO 63376-0529 Library website: www.win.org/library
>
> "Demons after money!?! Whatever happened to the still beating heart
> of a virgin?! No one has any standards anymore!"
> ___ Giles ('Buffy, the Vampire Slayer')
> | \
> | \
> [removed]@##########]==========================================================>
> \\ | /
> \\__/ / Touche!
> \___ __/
>
> ......................................................................
> Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
> Everything Fiction_L: http://www.webrary.org/rs/flmenu.html
>


Alison Hendon
[removed]@amanda.dorsai.org

"Though my soul may set in darkness,
It will rise in perfect light,
I have loved the stars too fondly
To be fearful of the night...."
- Sarah Williams, "The Old Astronomer to His Pupil"

FROM: Dennis Lien <[removed]@tc.umn.edu>
REC'D: 1/30/01, 5:21 PM

Should have thought to include the "Kent Montana" series by C.L. Grant,
writing under the name of Lionel Fenn. (But they may be hard to find;
all out of print and people who get them tend to hang on to them, I
think.) Fortunately, they don't necessarily have to be read in order.


1 - Kent Montana and the Really Ugly Thing from Mars (1990) Charles L.
Grant
(as Lionel Fenn)
2 - Kent Montana and the Reasonably Invisible Man (1991) Charles L. Grant
(as Lionel Fenn)
3 - Kent Montana and the Once and Future Thing (1991) Charles L. Grant
(as Lionel Fenn)
4 - The Mark of the Moderately Vicious Vampire (1992) Charles L. Grant
(as Lionel Fenn)
5 - 668: The Neighbor of the Beast (1992) Charles L. Grant (as Lionel Fenn)


Might also suggest Jeff Noon's AUTOMATED ALICE, which in spite of its
title and Carrollian premise is as much sf as fantasy. (If they might
want to slide across the treacherous divide into fantasy, Mary Gentle's
GRUNTS and Diana Wynne Jones' nonfiction (sort of) handbook parody THE
TOUGH GUIDE TO FANTASYLAND are a couple of my favorites.

I suppose the near-college age target audience of the original question
might consider Daniel Pinkwater's books too young for them, but it's
worth trying LIZARD MUSIC or ALAN MENDELSOHN THE BOY FROM MARS or THE
SNARKOUT BOYS AND THE AVOCADO OF DEATH on those willing to take the chance.

No doubt I'll wake up tonight saying "and how could I have forgotten..."
(Hmmm--maybe some of Kim Newman....)

Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // [removed]@tc.umn.edu

FROM: "christine jeffords" <[removed]@hotmail.com>
REC'D: 1/31/01, 8:02 AM

>From: Lucy Lockley <[removed]@mail.win.org>
>Reply-To: "Fiction_L" <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>To: Fiction_L <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>Subject: 'Sassy' Science Fiction
>Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 14:59:48 -0600
>
>
>I have been asked by a Librarian to pass the following request out to
>Fiction_L as I told her how very helpful you folks can be with this type of
>query.
>
>She has a group of Junior/Senior high age boys who are asking for Science
>Fiction titles like Douglas Adams 'Hitchhikers' titles and "Pest Control"
>by Bill Fitzhugh. The young men are thinking towards college and want
>funny books which have a sharp-edge to the humor...


Piers Anthony's never-ending Xanth series might suit them. Anthony's humor
is sophisticated (sometimes mildly scatological), and he uses a lot of puns.
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FROM: "christine jeffords" <[removed]@hotmail.com>
REC'D: 1/31/01, 8:13 AM

>From: "Brad Scott" <[removed]@ci.allen.tx.us>
>Reply-To: "Fiction_L" <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>To: Fiction_L <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>Subject: Re: 'Sassy' Science Fiction
>Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:27:57 -0600
>
>Here are a couple of possibilities in addition to the ones that others have
>already mentioned:
>
>Gardner, Craig Shaw's Cineverse Cycle ("Slaves of the Volcano God", "Bride
>of the Slime Monster", and "Revenge of the Fluffy Bunnies"), which blends
>fantasy, satire, and an alternate universe based on really, really bad
>movies.
>
>Robert Lynn Asprin's "Myth-adventures" series ("Myth-ing Persons",
>"Myth-Directions", "Little Myth Marker", etc.)
>

...Possibly also John Morressy's "Kedrigern" series, beginning with "A Voice
for Princess."

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FROM: "christine jeffords" <[removed]@hotmail.com>
REC'D: 1/31/01, 8:13 AM

Some of Elizabeth Scarborough's fantasies, like "The Drastic Dragon of
Drago, Texas," "The Goldcamp Vampire, or The Sanguinary Sourdough," and "The
Harem of Aman Akbar, or The Djinn Decanted," might be good. Also Patricia
Wrede's Enchanted Forst Chronicles, if they don't mind books with a central
character who is female.
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FROM: "Laura McCaffery" <[removed]@acpl.lib.in.us>
REC'D: 1/31/01, 8:23 AM

What about Sharyn McCrumb's Bimbos of the death sun and
Zombies of the Gene pool....all about the SF cons....lmc
> Another fantasy author who has that kind of edge for me is Tom
> Holt - titles I'd recommend are Expecting Someone Taller, Who's
> Afraid of Beowulf, and Flying Dutch (in that order).
>
> HTH,
> Alison
>
> >
> > I have been asked by a Librarian to pass the following request out
> > to Fiction_L as I told her how very helpful you folks can be with
> > this type of query.
> >
> > She has a group of Junior/Senior high age boys who are asking for
> > Science Fiction titles like Douglas Adams 'Hitchhikers' titles and
> > "Pest Control" by Bill Fitzhugh. The young men are thinking towards
> > college and want funny books which have a sharp-edge to the humor.
> > The librarian said said they want humor which is like that in "Mad"
> > magazine but in books. The Librarian, herself, termed it 'sassy'
> > humor and believes these patrons want to be, what used to be called,
> > 'cool' when they go off to college. :)
> >
> > She has recommended the other 2 titles by Fitzhugh; "Cross Dressing"
> > and "Organ Grinders" and the 'Discworld' series of titles by Terry
> > Pratchett which were accepted with pleasure by the patrons. She has
> > the list of titles under 'Parody and Comedy' in the Science Fiction
> > section of "Genreflecting" by Diana T. Herald and thinks that "Bill
> > the Galactic Hero" by Harry Harrison and "Venus on the Half-Shell"
> > by Kilgore Trout (Philip Jose Farmer) might be good suggestions.
> > She is even considering recommending the Sharyn McCrumb titles
> > "Bimbos of the Death Sun" and "Zombies of the Gene Pool" because of
> > the SF convention spoofing. She did recommend the titles by Douglas
> > Coupland such as "Generation X" or "Microserfs", as they are funny
> > contemporary spoofs of what life is like today but the young men did
> > not seem to take to those titles. She said she thought the Coupland
> > books may have been 'too adult' for this group.
> >
> > Can anyone out there suggest some other titles? I will compile and
> > post a list.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Lucy M. Lockley Phone: 636/441.2300, Ext. 1563
> > Collection Development Manager FAX: 636/441.3132
> > St. Charles City-County Library District
> > 425 Spencer Road
> > P.O. Box 529 e-mail: [removed]@mail.win.org
> > St. Peters, MO 63376-0529 Library website: www.win.org/library
> >
> > "Demons after money!?! Whatever happened to the still beating
> > heart of a virgin?! No one has any standards anymore!"
> > ___ Giles ('Buffy, the Vampire Slayer') | \ | \
> > [removed]@##########]===================================================
> > =======> \\ | /
> > \\__/ / Touche!
> > \___ __/
> >
> > ....................................................................
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> >
>
>
> Alison Hendon
> [removed]@amanda.dorsai.org
>
> "Though my soul may set in darkness,
> It will rise in perfect light,
> I have loved the stars too fondly
> To be fearful of the night...."
> - Sarah Williams, "The Old Astronomer to His Pupil"
>
> ......................................................................
> Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives? Everything
> Fiction_L: http://www.webrary.org/rs/flmenu.html


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Laura Hibbets McCaffery
Readers Services
Allen County Public Library
Fort Wayne, Indiana
"All opinions are mine alone. Others are
free to agree..or disagree."
"...all things are to to be examined and called into question. There
are no limits set to thought." Edith Hamilton, THE GREEK WAY.

FROM: "Renee Zurn" <[removed]@duluth.lib.mn.us>
REC'D: 1/31/01, 10:27 AM

I hope the person who asked for this information will compile a list for us all!!!

Renee Zurn
Duluth Public Library

>>> [removed]@acpl.lib.in.us 01/31/01 08:11AM >>>
What about Sharyn McCrumb's Bimbos of the death sun and
Zombies of the Gene pool....all about the SF cons....lmc
> Another fantasy author who has that kind of edge for me is Tom
> Holt - titles I'd recommend are Expecting Someone Taller, Who's
> Afraid of Beowulf, and Flying Dutch (in that order).
>
> HTH,
> Alison
>
> >
> > I have been asked by a Librarian to pass the following request out
> > to Fiction_L as I told her how very helpful you folks can be with
> > this type of query.
> >
> > She has a group of Junior/Senior high age boys who are asking for
> > Science Fiction titles like Douglas Adams 'Hitchhikers' titles and
> > "Pest Control" by Bill Fitzhugh. The young men are thinking towards
> > college and want funny books which have a sharp-edge to the humor.
> > The librarian said said they want humor which is like that in "Mad"
> > magazine but in books. The Librarian, herself, termed it 'sassy'
> > humor and believes these patrons want to be, what used to be called,
> > 'cool' when they go off to college. :)
> >
> > She has recommended the other 2 titles by Fitzhugh; "Cross Dressing"
> > and "Organ Grinders" and the 'Discworld' series of titles by Terry
> > Pratchett which were accepted with pleasure by the patrons. She has
> > the list of titles under 'Parody and Comedy' in the Science Fiction
> > section of "Genreflecting" by Diana T. Herald and thinks that "Bill
> > the Galactic Hero" by Harry Harrison and "Venus on the Half-Shell"
> > by Kilgore Trout (Philip Jose Farmer) might be good suggestions.
> > She is even considering recommending the Sharyn McCrumb titles
> > "Bimbos of the Death Sun" and "Zombies of the Gene Pool" because of
> > the SF convention spoofing. She did recommend the titles by Douglas
> > Coupland such as "Generation X" or "Microserfs", as they are funny
> > contemporary spoofs of what life is like today but the young men did
> > not seem to take to those titles. She said she thought the Coupland
> > books may have been 'too adult' for this group.
> >
> > Can anyone out there suggest some other titles? I will compile and
> > post a list.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Lucy M. Lockley Phone: 636/441.2300, Ext. 1563
> > Collection Development Manager FAX: 636/441.3132
> > St. Charles City-County Library District
> > 425 Spencer Road
> > P.O. Box 529 e-mail: [removed]@mail.win.org
> > St. Peters, MO 63376-0529 Library website: www.win.org/library
> >
> > "Demons after money!?! Whatever happened to the still beating
> > heart of a virgin?! No one has any standards anymore!"
> > ___ Giles ('Buffy, the Vampire Slayer') | \ | \
> > [removed]@##########]===================3D=========================3D=======
> > =======> \\ | /
> > \\__/ / Touche!
> > \___ __/
> >
> > ....................................................................
> > .. Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives? Everything
> > Fiction_L: http://www.webrary.org/rs/flmenu.html
> >
>
>
> Alison Hendon
> [removed]@amanda.dorsai.org
>
> "Though my soul may set in darkness,
> It will rise in perfect light,
> I have loved the stars too fondly
> To be fearful of the night...."
> - Sarah Williams, "The Old Astronomer to His Pupil"
>
> ......................................................................
> Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives? Everything
> Fiction_L: http://www.webrary.org/rs/flmenu.html


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Laura Hibbets McCaffery
Readers Services
Allen County Public Library
Fort Wayne, Indiana
"All opinions are mine alone. Others are
free to agree..or disagree."
"...all things are to to be examined and called into question. There
are no limits set to thought." Edith Hamilton, THE GREEK WAY.

FROM: "Kathy Loucks" <[removed]@cml.lib.oh.us>
REC'D: 1/31/01, 10:38 AM

How about Robert Asprin's Myth series?

Kathleen Loucks
Columbus Metropolitan Library
Columbus, OH

FROM: "Deb Warner" <[removed]@co.durham.nc.us>
REC'D: 1/31/01, 10:49 AM

Zelazny's ROADMARKS, DOORWAYS IN THE SAND
Heinlein's GLORY ROAD
Selina Rosen QUEEN OF DENIAL
Pat Murphy THERE AND BACK AGAIN: BY MAX MERRIWELL
Eric Idle THE ROAD TO MARS: A POST-MODEM NOVEL

FROM: "Mary Rindfleisch" <[removed]@biblio.org>
REC'D: 1/31/01, 10:59 AM

I am going to love having this list available! Here are a few other
suggestions I don't think I have seen mentioned yet.

Kage Baker's "Company" series, while not quite as ha-ha funny as some that
have been suggested, definitely has an edge, with the main character being a
cyborg sent back from the future to various time periods in history. The
teenaged protagonist definitely has an attitude and the whole view of what
we take for granted in civilization is skewed just enough to make the reader
smile knowingly.

Eric Garcia's _Anonymous Rex_ features dinosaurs who never died out but have
gone into hiding as "normal" humans. This is the first of a series (second
due out this spring) which is done in the style of a hard-boiled detective
novel and manages to poke fun at multiple genres at once.

I haven't read it yet, but I purchased a book this winter called _I Married
an Earthling_ by Alvin Orloff thinking it might appeal to this same crowd.
It includes an alien/earthling romance and a gay-youth-finding-his-identity
theme, so it might not appeal to everyone, but you never know.

Mary Rindfleisch
Adult Services/Readers' Advisory Librarian
Ridgefield Library
472 Main St.
Ridgefield, CT 06877
Phone: 203-438-2282
e-mail: [removed]@biblio.org

FROM: "Mary Rindfleisch" <[removed]@biblio.org>
REC'D: 1/31/01, 11:09 AM

The Kilgore Trout reference below reminded me that my friends and I all
devoured Kurt Vonnegut at that age -- borderline science fiction but very
"cool",at least at the time.

Mary Rindfleisch
Adult Services/Readers' Advisory Librarian
Ridgefield Library
472 Main St.
Ridgefield, CT 06877
Phone: 203-438-2282
e-mail: [removed]@biblio.org

-----Original Message-----
From: [removed]@maillist.webrary.org
[[removed]@maillist.webrary.org]On Behalf Of Lucy Lockley
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 4:00 PM
To: Fiction_L
Subject: 'Sassy' Science Fiction

I have been asked by a Librarian to pass the following request out to
Fiction_L as I told her how very helpful you folks can be with this type of
query.

She has a group of Junior/Senior high age boys who are asking for Science
Fiction titles like Douglas Adams 'Hitchhikers' titles and "Pest Control"
by Bill Fitzhugh. The young men are thinking towards college and want
funny books which have a sharp-edge to the humor. The librarian said said
they want humor which is like that in "Mad" magazine but in books. The
Librarian, herself, termed it 'sassy' humor and believes these patrons want
to be, what used to be called, 'cool' when they go off to college. :)

She has recommended the other 2 titles by Fitzhugh; "Cross Dressing" and
"Organ Grinders" and the 'Discworld' series of titles by Terry Pratchett
which were accepted with pleasure by the patrons. She has the list of
titles under 'Parody and Comedy' in the Science Fiction section of
"Genreflecting" by Diana T. Herald and thinks that "Bill the Galactic Hero"
by Harry Harrison and "Venus on the Half-Shell" by Kilgore Trout (Philip
Jose Farmer) might be good suggestions. She is even considering
recommending the Sharyn McCrumb titles "Bimbos of the Death Sun" and
"Zombies of the Gene Pool" because of the SF convention spoofing. She did
recommend the titles by Douglas Coupland such as "Generation X" or
"Microserfs", as they are funny contemporary spoofs of what life is like
today but the young men did not seem to take to those titles. She said she
thought the Coupland books may have been 'too adult' for this group.

Can anyone out there suggest some other titles? I will compile and post a
list.

Thanks in advance.

Lucy M. Lockley Phone: 636/441.2300, Ext. 1563
Collection Development Manager FAX: 636/441.3132
St. Charles City-County Library District
425 Spencer Road
P.O. Box 529 e-mail: [removed]@mail.win.org
St. Peters, MO 63376-0529 Library website: www.win.org/library

"Demons after money!?! Whatever happened to the still beating heart
of a virgin?! No one has any standards anymore!"
___ Giles ('Buffy, the Vampire Slayer')
| \
| \
[removed]@##########]==========================================================>
\\ | /
\\__/ / Touche!
\___ __/

FROM: "Becky Katzenmeyer" <[removed]@hotmail.com>
REC'D: 1/31/01, 7:15 PM

How about the Stainless Steel Rat series--Harrison.

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FROM: "Leser, Debra" <[removed]@rolling-meadows.lib.il.us>
REC'D: 2/1/01, 9:11 AM

One book that I haven't read yet but it looks like it would fit this
category is Mr. Spaceman by Robert Olen Butler. Another book is Practical
Demon Keeping by Christopher Moore.This one may even go for hokey horror as
well.

Debbie Leser
Rolling Meadows Library
Rolling Meadows, IL

FROM: Suzanne Booker <[removed]@monroe.lib.in.us>
REC'D: 2/1/01, 9:22 AM

Hi - Please compile this list. . .sounds like it would make a marvellous
display for our young adult section!
Thanks,
Susie

FROM: Lucy Lockley <[removed]@mail.win.org>
REC'D: 2/1/01, 5:39 PM

Thanks to everyone who sent suggestions for the 'Sassy' Science Fiction
question. I have passed them along to my fellow staff member who is very
happy and appreciative. I am working on a compiled list and will post when
it is ready.

Great suggestions from one and all(!) Thanks so much. :)

Lucy M. Lockley Phone: 636/441.2300, Ext. 1563
Collection Development Manager FAX: 636/441.3132
St. Charles City-County Library District
425 Spencer Road
P.O. Box 529 e-mail: [removed]@mail.win.org
St. Peters, MO 63376-0529 Library website: www.win.org/library

"Demons after money!?! Whatever happened to the still beating heart
of a virgin?! No one has any standards anymore!"
___ Giles ('Buffy, the Vampire Slayer')
| \
| \
[removed]@##########]==========================================================>
\\ | /
\\__/ / Touche!
\___ __/

FROM: Dennis Lien <[removed]@tc.umn.edu>
REC'D: 2/1/01, 6:11 PM

A couple more that belatedly came to mind:

Robert Rankin
Joe Lansdale, for THE DRIVE-IN and THE DRIVE-IN

A note:

The more suggestions came in, the more uncertain I became about the
definitions of "sassy"--judging from the original examples given
(including the mention of MAD), I was thinking in terms of works
that tended toward satire, self-parody (playing with the conventions
of genre), over-the-top exagerration, perhaps a certain amount of
gross-out factors; by TV analogy, SOUTH PARK or THE KIDS IN THE HALL
rather than a straight sitcom, however funny. But maybe that's just
me.

Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // [removed]@tc.umn.edu

FROM: C Gertz <[removed]@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
REC'D: 2/1/01, 6:32 PM

Try Bryce Sterling's "Distraction" which is very sly, not ha-ha funny,
but interesting after the US presidential elections or "Hard Light", by
William Gibson, which has more slap-stick, strange character humor.

Christine Gertz
Strathcona County Library
[removed]@ualberta.ca

FROM: Lucy Lockley <[removed]@mail.win.org>
REC'D: 2/2/01, 10:07 AM

Dennis:

The definition of Sassy 'is' difficult to make. It was the term that
seemed to 'fit' what the patrons were asking for; that is also why I gave
so many examples of what the Librarian had tried. I am passing your
additional suggestions on and will be adding them to the list I'm
compiling. I wont know if any of the many suggestions turn out to be the
'perfect' suggestion for these patrons unless the Librarian gets back to
me. (I hope she will and I intend to follow up in a week or so to see if
she has spoken with them again.) But all are great and it's going to be a
really good list for a display or just for possible recommendations.

Lucy M. Lockley Phone: 636/441.2300, Ext. 1563
Collection Development Manager FAX: 636/441.3132
St. Charles City-County Library District
425 Spencer Road
P.O. Box 529 e-mail: [removed]@mail.win.org
St. Peters, MO 63376-0529 Library website: www.win.org/library

"Demons after money!?! Whatever happened to the still beating heart
of a virgin?! No one has any standards anymore!"
___ Giles ('Buffy, the Vampire Slayer')
| \
| \
[removed]@###########]==========================================================>
\\ | /
\\__/ / Touche!
\___ __/


At 05:55 PM 2/1/01 -0600, you wrote:
>
>A note:
>
>The more suggestions came in, the more uncertain I became about the
>definitions of "sassy"--judging from the original examples given
>(including the mention of MAD), I was thinking in terms of works
>that tended toward satire, self-parody (playing with the conventions
>of genre), over-the-top exagerration, perhaps a certain amount of
>gross-out factors; by TV analogy, SOUTH PARK or THE KIDS IN THE HALL
>rather than a straight sitcom, however funny. But maybe that's just
>me.
>
>Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // [removed]@tc.umn.edu
>
>......................................................................
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FROM: Alicia Graybill <[removed]@rand.lcl.lib.ne.us>
REC'D: 2/3/01, 10:50 AM

Hello:
A series my sister introduced me for that I haven't seen mentioned is the
Phule series written by Robert L. Asprin (and now Philip Heck, I think).
I believe _A Phule and His Money_ is the first title but I could be
mistaken.
Sorry if this is a repeat.:)
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FROM: Dennis Lien <[removed]@tc.umn.edu>
REC'D: 2/5/01, 10:34 AM

At 05:55 PM 2/1/01 -0600, you wrote:
>
>A couple more that belatedly came to mind:
>
>Robert Rankin
>Joe Lansdale, for THE DRIVE-IN and THE DRIVE-IN

Sorry; last line should read
THE DRIVE-IN and THE DRIVE-IN 2
The full titles, if anyone cares, are:

THE DRIVE-IN (A B-MOVIE WITH BLOOD AND POPCORN, MADE IN TEXAS)
and
THE DRIVE-IN 2 (NOT JUST ONE OF THEM SEQUELS)

Bantam Spectra pbs, 1988 and 1989 respectively; both were reprinted in
one volume by Carroll & Graf pb in 1997 as

THE DRIVE-IN: A DOUBLE-FEATURE OMNIBUS

Dennis Lien / U of Minnesota Libraries // [removed]@tc.umn.edu

FROM: "Brad Scott" <[removed]@ci.allen.tx.us>
REC'D: 2/5/01, 1:46 PM

Just this weekend I came across another couple of books that might fit this query:

"Waiting for the Galactic Bus" and "The Snake Oil Wars", both by Parke Godwin.

Bradley A. Scott
Allen (Texas) Public Library

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