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FROM: "Ridgefield Library Fiction Room" <[removed]@biblio.org>
REC'D: 2/25/00, 4:40 PM
TIA
Mary Rindfleisch
Adult Services/Reader's Advisory Librarian
Ridgefield Library
Ridgefield, CT
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FROM: "Sarah Flowers" <[removed]@scinet.co.santa-clara.ca.us>
REC'D: 2/25/00, 6:45 PM
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FROM: "Susan" <[removed]@uia.net>
REC'D: 2/25/00, 7:02 PM
The Blue Afternoon by William Boyd
The Flaming Corsage by William Kennedy
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At 05:56 PM 2/25/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Here's a quest I can't begin to figure how to track through standard RA
>sources, so I am turning to the pros. I am searching for novels which
>absolutely perfectly capture a "zeitgeist" i.e. the feel of a particular
>
>TIA
FROM: "Diana Tixier Herald" <[removed]@wic.net>
REC'D: 2/25/00, 8:45 PM
After nine years in Goddard, New Hampshire, recently divorced Naomi Roth
is still an outsider even though as a Vista volunteer she organized the
women into a profitable needlework cooperative. When she finds a dead
infant in the Sabbathday River she is the first suspect but soon the
police arrest Heather Pratt a Hester Prynne of the 1980's who
unashamedly has a daughter by a married man. When a false confession is
coerced from her she is set to be tried for murder When Naomi, believing
that Heather's baby had been stillborn and hidden in a small pond finds
the second child the trial turns into a media circus with Heather
accused of bearing twins and murdering them both.
Lots of grist for book discussion groups in this compellingly period
perfect piece.
--
Happy reading,
Di Herald
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tastes."
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REC'D: 2/26/00, 7:10 AM
<< Here's a quest I can't begin to figure how to track through standard RA
sources, so I am turning to the pros. I am searching for novels which
absolutely perfectly capture a "zeitgeist" i.e. the feel of a particular
point in time. Often these have real historical figures woven in (like
Doctorow's Ragtime and others); sometimes it is brand name dropping (like
McInerney's Bright Lights, Big City). Bonfire of the Vanities would be
another example, many of the works of Don DeLillo also; I have heard the
recent Turn of the Century by Kurt Anderson described this way. The
particular historical period is not important, just the level to which the
author really seems to capture the essence of that period. Any suggestions?
I will post the compiled list. >>
I suggest Elswyth Thane's QUEEN'S FOLLY, in which QE the first is a presence
throughout 400 years of the novel. Also, Spider Robinons's CALLAHAN'S
CROSSTIME SALOON Stories - where (sometimes) historical figures try to make
amends for past misdeeds. And there's always EXODUS by Leon Uris.
Binnie Syril Braunstein
Romance novelist/former librarian
FROM: "Kathleen Martin" <[removed]@gvpl.victoria.bc.ca>
REC'D: 2/26/00, 12:31 PM
Kathleen Martin
Co-ordinator of Community Services
Greater Victoria Public Library
Victoria, B.C.
On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Ridgefield Library Fiction Room wrote:
> Here's a quest I can't begin to figure how to track through standard RA
> sources, so I am turning to the pros. I am searching for novels which
> absolutely perfectly capture a "zeitgeist" i.e. the feel of a particular
> point in time. Often these have real historical figures woven in (like
> Doctorow's Ragtime and others); sometimes it is brand name dropping (like
> McInerney's Bright Lights, Big City). Bonfire of the Vanities would be
> another example, many of the works of Don DeLillo also; I have heard the
> recent Turn of the Century by Kurt Anderson described this way. The
> particular historical period is not important, just the level to which the
> author really seems to capture the essence of that period. Any suggestions?
> I will post the compiled list.
>
> TIA
>
> Mary Rindfleisch
> Adult Services/Reader's Advisory Librarian
> Ridgefield Library
> Ridgefield, CT
> [removed]@biblio.org
>
>
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REC'D: 2/26/00, 4:29 PM
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REC'D: 2/26/00, 10:08 PM
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to keep." -anonymous
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>From: Sarah Flowers <[removed]@scinet.co.santa-clara.ca.us>
>To: Ridgefield Library Fiction Room <[removed]@biblio.org>
>Subject: Re: Zeitgeist Novels
>Date: Fri, Feb 25, 2000, 6:56 PM
>
> What an interesting question. Two very different books spring instantly
> to mind. The first is Margaret Atwood's Alias Grace, set in
> mid-nineteenth-century Canada and the U.S. I found it very evocative of
> time and place. The other, believe it or not, is The Dead Zone, by
> Stephen King. Part of it is that the main character wakes up after
> four years in a coma, and so is rediscovering his own era (the mid-'70s).
> Part of it is the whole political aspect--the lead-in to the 1976
> election.
>
>
> Sarah Flowers, Community Librarian
> Morgan Hill Public Library
> 17575 Peak Avenue, Morgan Hill CA 95037-4128
> [removed]@scinet.co.santa-clara.ca.us
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>
FROM: "christine jeffords" <[removed]@hotmail.com>
REC'D: 2/27/00, 2:41 PM
Also Michener's novels--"Hawaii," "Texas," "Poland," "Mexico," "Centennial,"
"The Source," etc., etc.--any of the epics that begin in prehistoric times
and go forward from there.
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REC'D: 2/27/00, 3:40 PM
Georgine Olson
Outreach Services Manager
Fairbanks North Star Borough Public Library & Regional Center
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Fairbanks AK 99701
phone: (907) 459-1020
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From: Ridgefield Library Fiction Room <[removed]@biblio.org>
To: [removed]@maillist.nslsilus.org <[removed]@maillist.nslsilus.org>
Date: Friday, February 25, 2000 2:03 PM
Subject: Zeitgeist Novels
>Here's a quest I can't begin to figure how to track through standard RA
>sources, so I am turning to the pros. I am searching for novels which
>absolutely perfectly capture a "zeitgeist" i.e. the feel of a particular
>point in time. Often these have real historical figures woven in (like
>Doctorow's Ragtime and others); sometimes it is brand name dropping (like
>McInerney's Bright Lights, Big City). Bonfire of the Vanities would be
>another example, many of the works of Don DeLillo also; I have heard the
>recent Turn of the Century by Kurt Anderson described this way. The
>particular historical period is not important, just the level to which the
>author really seems to capture the essence of that period. Any suggestions?
>I will post the compiled list.
>
>TIA
>
>Mary Rindfleisch
>Adult Services/Reader's Advisory Librarian
>Ridgefield Library
>Ridgefield, CT
[removed]@biblio.org
>
FROM: "Fiction_L" <[removed]@nslsilus.ORG>
REC'D: 2/27/00, 3:40 PM
=====
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FROM: "Kim Rutter" <[removed]@lvdl.org>
REC'D: 2/28/00, 8:03 AM
Kim Rutter
Lake Villa District Library
Lake Villa, IL
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diana Tixier Herald [[removed]@wic.net]
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 1:52 PM
> [removed]@maillist.nslsilus.org
> Subject: Re: Zeitgeist Novels
>
> I really thought that Sabbathday River by Jean Hanff Korelitz captured
> the 1980s very well. Here is my review from the Genreflecting page:
>
> After nine years in Goddard, New Hampshire, recently divorced Naomi Roth
> is still an outsider even though as a Vista volunteer she organized the
> women into a profitable needlework cooperative. When she finds a dead
> infant in the Sabbathday River she is the first suspect but soon the
> police arrest Heather Pratt a Hester Prynne of the 1980's who
> unashamedly has a daughter by a married man. When a false confession is
> coerced from her she is set to be tried for murder When Naomi, believing
> that Heather's baby had been stillborn and hidden in a small pond finds
> the second child the trial turns into a media circus with Heather
> accused of bearing twins and murdering them both.
>
> Lots of grist for book discussion groups in this compellingly period
> perfect piece.
>
> --
> Happy reading,
> Di Herald
> [removed]@wic.net see the Genreflecting page at
> <A HREF="http://www.mancon.com/genre/">http://www.mancon.com/genre/</A>
> Rosenberg's First Law of Reading "Never apologize for your reading
> tastes."
>
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REC'D: 2/28/00, 9:31 AM
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Ellen J. Reynolds
Information Resources/Adult Services Coordinator
Pioneer Library System
4595 Rt. 21 N. Canandaigua NY 14424
716-394-8260
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FROM: "Tom Dillie" <[removed]@wadsworth.lib.oh.us>
REC'D: 2/28/00, 11:48 AM
Tom Dillie, Adult Services Librarian
Wadsworth Public Library
132 Broad St.
Wadsworth OH 44281
www.wadsworth.lib.oh.us
Ridgefield Library Fiction Room wrote:
> Here's a quest I can't begin to figure how to track through standard RA
> sources, so I am turning to the pros. I am searching for novels which
> absolutely perfectly capture a "zeitgeist" i.e. the feel of a particular
> point in time. Often these have real historical figures woven in (like
> Doctorow's Ragtime and others); sometimes it is brand name dropping (like
> McInerney's Bright Lights, Big City). Bonfire of the Vanities would be
> another example, many of the works of Don DeLillo also; I have heard the
> recent Turn of the Century by Kurt Anderson described this way. The
> particular historical period is not important, just the level to which the
> author really seems to capture the essence of that period. Any suggestions?
> I will post the compiled list.
>
> TIA
>
> Mary Rindfleisch
> Adult Services/Reader's Advisory Librarian
> Ridgefield Library
> Ridgefield, CT
> [removed]@biblio.org
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REC'D: 2/28/00, 12:21 PM
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FROM: "Susan Hawrusik" <[removed]@lmxac.org>
REC'D: 2/28/00, 3:44 PM
Ridgefield Library Fiction Room wrote:
> Here's a quest I can't begin to figure how to track through standard RA
> sources, so I am turning to the pros. I am searching for novels which
> absolutely perfectly capture a "zeitgeist" i.e. the feel of a particular
> point in time. Often these have real historical figures woven in (like
> Doctorow's Ragtime and others); sometimes it is brand name dropping (like
> McInerney's Bright Lights, Big City). Bonfire of the Vanities would be
> another example, many of the works of Don DeLillo also; I have heard the
> recent Turn of the Century by Kurt Anderson described this way. The
> particular historical period is not important, just the level to which the
> author really seems to capture the essence of that period. Any suggestions?
> I will post the compiled list.
>
> TIA
>
> Mary Rindfleisch
> Adult Services/Reader's Advisory Librarian
> Ridgefield Library
> Ridgefield, CT
> [removed]@biblio.org
FROM: <[removed]@co.wake.nc.us>
REC'D: 2/28/00, 4:23 PM
Donna Beaver
Wake County Libraries
Zebulon, NC branch
FROM: <[removed]@lib.cnib.ca>
REC'D: 2/29/00, 7:24 AM
I'm reading one right now which falls into this category as well: Iain Pears' "An Instance of the Fingerpost" It takes place
in 17th century England and does in fact have actual historical figures playing a part in the plot. It even has an index of
important people featured in the novel at the end of the book. An excellent mystery.
Another would be 1916 by Morgan Llywelyn. This takes us back to the Easter Rebellion in Ireland and has many historical figures
involved in the story.
I'm sure I can think of some more, as this is one of my favorite genres. It's great when you can read a great story and learn
history as well.
Cheers!
Nicole Patterson
CNIB Library for the Blind
Toronto, ON
>>> [removed]@nslsilus.ORG" 27/02/2000 5:14:39 pm >>>
I believe that Caleb Carr's novel The Alienist might be
appropriate. The sense of place -late nineteenth century
New York City - is so vivid that I've had a number of
people who've read it come back afterward asking for
historical maps so that they could try to track the action
of the story through the streets and sections described in
the book. It has historical figures woven neatly into the
story, so it actually has a slightly realistic basis,
although it is very obviously a work of fiction.
=====
Debbie Walsh
"Never apologize for...reading..."
Rosenberg's First Law (abbrev.)
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FROM: "Jennifer Owens" <[removed]@hotmail.com>
REC'D: 2/29/00, 8:22 AM
Jennifer Owens
Grayslake Public Library
Grayslake IL
>From: "Ridgefield Library Fiction Room" <[removed]@biblio.org>
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>To: [removed]@maillist.nslsilus.org
>Subject: Zeitgeist Novels
>Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:56:58 -0500
>
>Here's a quest I can't begin to figure how to track through standard RA
>sources, so I am turning to the pros. I am searching for novels which
>absolutely perfectly capture a "zeitgeist" i.e. the feel of a particular
>point in time. Often these have real historical figures woven in (like
>Doctorow's Ragtime and others); sometimes it is brand name dropping (like
>McInerney's Bright Lights, Big City). Bonfire of the Vanities would be
>another example, many of the works of Don DeLillo also; I have heard the
>recent Turn of the Century by Kurt Anderson described this way. The
>particular historical period is not important, just the level to which the
>author really seems to capture the essence of that period. Any suggestions?
>I will post the compiled list.
>
>TIA
>
>Mary Rindfleisch
>Adult Services/Reader's Advisory Librarian
>Ridgefield Library
>Ridgefield, CT
[removed]@biblio.org
>
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REC'D: 2/29/00, 2:23 PM
Catherine McCullough Les
Sterling Heights Public Library
Sterling Heights, MI
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Romance writer/former librarian
FROM: "Ridgefield Library Fiction Room" <[removed]@biblio.org>
DATE: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:11:19 -0500
Mary Rindfleisch
ZEITGEIST NOVELS
The original query was for books which somehow encapsulate the spirit of a
specific place or group at a particular moment in time and have become
identified with that setting (like The Great Gatsby has become a symbol of
America in the high-flying flapper era). The books suggested tended to be
historical fiction (i.e. written with the advantage of hindsight), although
some were from authors capturing ineffably their own generation. The main
common characteristic seems to be that all of these books bring a particular
place and time so vividly to life that you can believe "you are there."
While I have to the best of my ability indicated the general time and place
where these titles are set, some evoke a very specific neighborhood or
social group (the criminal underworld, professional baseball, the military
in battle, a religious community) which adds to the richness of the reading
experience. Some also are dominated by a particular person, issue, or
location more than an era, but all are guaranteed by Fiction_L participants
to be powerful in evoking a particular milieu. Time will not allow me to add
more detailed annotations, but those who followed the original postings on
this string may remember some of the enthusiastic and detailed descriptions.
Happy Reading!
Alexander, Bruce Sir John Fielding mysteries (Georgian England)
Amado, Jorge Dona Flor and her Two Husbands (Brazil, 1940s)
Anderson, Kurt Turn of the Century (US, 1999)
Atwood, Margaret Alias Grace (Canada, mid-1800s)
Belfer, Lauren City of Light (Buffalo, NY, 1900)
Boyd, William Blue Afternoon (Phillipines, 1902)
Brock, Darryl If I Never Get Back (US, post-Civil War - also a time
travel element)
Carr, Caleb The Alienist; Angel of Darkness (NYC, 1890s)
Chadwick, Elizabeth Love Knot; Wild Hunt (medieval Britain)
Chisholm, P.F. Sir Robert Carey mysteries (Elizabethan England)
Christilian, J.D. Scarlet Women (NYC, 1870s)
Clair, Maxine Rattlebone (all-black Kansas town, 1950s)
DeLillo, Don Underworld; Libra & others (various 20th century
settings)
Doctorow, E.L. Ragtime (NYC & environs, early 1900s) & others
Douglas, Marcia Madame Fate (Jamaica, 20th century)
Duggan, Alfred Rome/Middle East/medieval Europe
Finney, Jack Time and Again; From Time to Time (NYC, 1880s & 1914,
plus time travel element)
Finney, Patricia Firedrake's Eye; Unicorn's Blood (Elizabethan England)
Fitzgerald, F. Scott The Great Gatsby (Long Island high society, 1920s)
Flagg, Fanny Coming Attractions (Mississippi, 1950s)
Frazier, Charles Cold Mountain (US South, Civil War period)
Gabaldon, Diana Outlander series (Scotland, 1740s - US, colonial
period, plus time travel element)
Gaines, Ernest J. A Lesson Before Dying (Louisiana, 1940s)
Garrett, George Death of the Fox; others (Elizabethan England)
George, Margaret Autobiography of Henry VIII; Mary Queen of Scotland and
the Isles (Tudor/Elizabethan England)
Golden, Arthur Memoirs of a Geisha (Japanese geisha community,
early-mid 20th century)
Gregory, Phillipa Earthly Joys (England, early 1600s)
Gutcheon, Beth Saying Grace (California "gold coast" day school, late
20th century)
Hamill, Pete Snow in August (working-class Brooklyn, NY, 1947)
Heyer, Georgette many Regency romances
Hoffman, Alice Seventh Heaven (US suburbia, 1950s)
Holland, Cecelia Great Maria (medieval Italy)
Ingram, Grace Red Adam's Lady (medieval Europe)
Kennedy, William Flaming Corsage (Albany & NYC, 1884-1912)
King, Stephen Dead Zone (New England, 1970s)
Korelitz, Jean Hanff Sabbathday River (small town New England, 1980s)
Lawrence, Margaret Midwife Hannah Trevor series (Maine, 1780s)
Lee, Harper To Kill a Mockingbird (Alabama, 1930s)
Liss, David Conspiracy of Paper (London financial world, early 18th
century)
Llewelyn, Morgan 1916 (Ireland, early 20th century)
McInerney, Jay Bright Lights, Big City (NYC, 1980)
Michener, James various epics (more about a place over time than one
moment in history)
Mitchell, Margaret Gone with the Wind (US South, Civil War period)
Morgan, Robert Gap Creek (Appalachia/Carolinas, 1900)
Newman, Sharan Catherine LeVendeur mysteries (medieval France)
O'Brian, Patrick Aubrey/Maturin naval adventures (British Royal Navy at
sea around the world, Napoleonic War era)
Pears, Iain Instance of the Fingerpost (Restoration England, 1660s)
Peters, Ellis Brother Cadfael mysteries (medieval England)
Potok, Chaim Davita's Harp (NYC Jewish & leftist commmunities,
1930s-40s)
Renault, Mary Praise Singer; Mask of Apollo; others (Ancient Greece)
Ross, Kate Julian Kestrel mysteries (Regency England)
Santmyer, Helen Hoover -- And Ladies of the Club (small-town Ohio, 1860s-1920s)
Shaara, Michael Killer Angels (US - Battle of Gettysburg, Civil War
period)
Shreve, Anita Fortune's Rocks (New England, 1899)
Soos, Troy Mickey Rawlings baseball mysteries (various US cities,
early 20th century)
Steinbeck, John Grapes of Wrath (US Dust Bowl & California migrant
worker communities, Depression era)
Thane, Elswyth Queen's Folly (a family estate from Elizabethan times
through modern day)
Treece, Henry various titles (pre-Roman Britain & Ancient Greece)
Tsukiyama, Gail Women of the Silk (China, early 20th century)
Uris, Leon Exodus (Israel, post-WW II)
Walker, Mildred Winter Wheat (Montana wheat country, 1940s)
Willis, Connie Doomsday Book (medieval England, plus a time travel
element)
Wolfe, Tom Bonfire of the Vanities (NYC, 1980s)
Youmans, Marly Catherwood (New York frontier, late 17th century)
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