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FROM: "Mary Rindfleisch" <[removed]@biblio.org>
REC'D: 12/28/00, 10:24 AM

Help! I know I saw this information somewhere, but I have been looking
through my bookmarked websites without success, so I am turning to the
experts for assistance. Once upon a time, I am sure I saw on the web
somewhere a list of common British words that crop up in crime fiction but
are different from American usage (e.g. the "boot" of a car rather than the
trunk). Tjhis may have been a list, an article, or some other format. I am
pretty sure such a list was in the classic publication _Murder Ink_, but our
ever efficient non-fiction librarians seem to have weeded our copy of that
into oblivion. And I am nearly positive I saw something similar online
somewhere. Does this ring a bell with anyone? I am doing a display of
detective fiction from around the world and wanted to create a little reader
quiz to go with it. TIA.

Mary Rindfleisch
Adult Services/Readers' Advisory Librarian
Ridgefield Library
472 Main St.
Ridgefield, CT 06877
Phone: 203-438-2282
e-mail: [removed]@biblio.org

FROM: "Brad Scott" <[removed]@ci.allen.tx.us>
REC'D: 12/28/00, 12:10 PM

If you have any of the following in your collection, they may be useful:

"British-American synonyms : french fries and chips and other words that mean the same thing but look and sound as different as truck and lorry", by Joan Hanson. (Lerner Pub. Co., 1972, ISBN 0822502798). Juvenile book, 32 pages, with black & white illustrations of synonym pairs such as garbage can/ dustbin, french fries/ chips, etc.

British/American language dictionary / Norman Moss. (updated edition, Passport Books, 1991, ISBN 0844291153.)

British English for American readers : a dictionary of the
language, customs, and places of British life and literature / David Grote. (Greenwood Press, 1992, ISBN 0313278512).

I'm sure there are other printed sources as well, and probably no end of websites (although I haven't looked for any.)

Bradley A. Scott
Allen (Texas) Public Library

** All opinions are personal. **
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Mary Rindfleisch" <[removed]@biblio.org>
Reply-To: "Fiction_L" <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 11:15:35 -0500

>Help! I know I saw this information somewhere, but I have been looking
>through my bookmarked websites without success, so I am turning to the
>experts for assistance. Once upon a time, I am sure I saw on the web
>somewhere a list of common British words that crop up in crime fiction but
>are different from American usage (e.g. the "boot" of a car rather than the
>trunk). Tjhis may have been a list, an article, or some other format. I am
>pretty sure such a list was in the classic publication _Murder Ink_, but our
>ever efficient non-fiction librarians seem to have weeded our copy of that
>into oblivion. And I am nearly positive I saw something similar online
>somewhere. Does this ring a bell with anyone? I am doing a display of
>detective fiction from around the world and wanted to create a little reader
>quiz to go with it. TIA.
>
>Mary Rindfleisch
>Adult Services/Readers' Advisory Librarian
>Ridgefield Library
>472 Main St.
>Ridgefield, CT 06877
>Phone: 203-438-2282
>e-mail: [removed]@biblio.org
>
>
>......................................................................
>Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
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FROM: Pamela M Weinberg <[removed]@chipublib.org>
REC'D: 12/28/00, 12:29 PM

we have a 1977 version of Murder Ink and, among other really fascinating
info & trivia, it has a "Bobby" Glossary, schematic of English police
hierarchy, an NYPD glossary, and much much more. Thanks for inspiring me
to look at this great (but dated) resource. You must have it if you want
to make mystery quizzes! Also, we just got a copy of "A Writer's
Companion" (ed. by Louis D.Rubin) which has lists and glossaries for fact
checking for writers and this may have other info.

Pam Weinberg
Oriole Park Br./CPL

xx
x~x
`

On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Mary Rindfleisch wrote:

> Help! I know I saw this information somewhere, but I have been looking
> through my bookmarked websites without success, so I am turning to the
> experts for assistance. Once upon a time, I am sure I saw on the web
> somewhere a list of common British words that crop up in crime fiction but
> are different from American usage (e.g. the "boot" of a car rather than the
> trunk). Tjhis may have been a list, an article, or some other format. I am
> pretty sure such a list was in the classic publication _Murder Ink_, but our
> ever efficient non-fiction librarians seem to have weeded our copy of that
> into oblivion. And I am nearly positive I saw something similar online
> somewhere. Does this ring a bell with anyone? I am doing a display of
> detective fiction from around the world and wanted to create a little reader
> quiz to go with it. TIA.
>
> Mary Rindfleisch
> Adult Services/Readers' Advisory Librarian
> Ridgefield Library
> 472 Main St.
> Ridgefield, CT 06877
> Phone: 203-438-2282
> e-mail: [removed]@biblio.org
>
>
> ......................................................................
> Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
> Everything Fiction_L: http://www.webrary.org/rs/flmenu.html
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FROM: "Eugenia Bryant" <[removed]@webrary.org>
REC'D: 12/28/00, 12:39 PM

Found this book that should help you:

Bob's Your Uncle : A Dictionary of Slang for British Mystery Fans
by Jann Turner-Lord, $8.95

Also, you can try "british slang" in Google or another search engine and
come up with several Web sites that profess to be searchable British slang
dictionaries, such as this one: http://www.matts-web.com/slang/

Good luck!

Eugenia

Eugenia Bryant
Assistant Director, Head of Public Services
Morton Grove Public Library
Morton Grove, IL
(847) 965-4220
[removed]@webrary.org
http://www.webrary.org
Opinions expressed are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect
official Library policy.


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>From: "Brad Scott" <[removed]@ci.allen.tx.us>
>To: Fiction_L <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
>Subject: Re: British Mystery Terminology
>Date: Thu, Dec 28, 2000, 10:45 AM
>

> If you have any of the following in your collection, they may be useful:
>
> "British-American synonyms : french fries and chips and other words that
> mean the same thing but look and sound as different as truck and lorry",
> by Joan Hanson. (Lerner Pub. Co., 1972, ISBN 0822502798). Juvenile book,
> 32 pages, with black & white illustrations of synonym pairs such as garbage
> can/ dustbin, french fries/ chips, etc.
>
> British/American language dictionary / Norman Moss. (updated edition,
> Passport Books, 1991, ISBN 0844291153.)
>
> British English for American readers : a dictionary of the
> language, customs, and places of British life and literature / David Grote.
> (Greenwood Press, 1992, ISBN 0313278512).
>
> I'm sure there are other printed sources as well, and probably no end of
> websites (although I haven't looked for any.)
>
> Bradley A. Scott
> Allen (Texas) Public Library
>
> ** All opinions are personal. **
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Mary Rindfleisch" <[removed]@biblio.org>
> Reply-To: "Fiction_L" <[removed]@maillist.webrary.org>
> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 11:15:35 -0500
>
>>Help! I know I saw this information somewhere, but I have been looking
>>through my bookmarked websites without success, so I am turning to the
>>experts for assistance. Once upon a time, I am sure I saw on the web
>>somewhere a list of common British words that crop up in crime fiction but
>>are different from American usage (e.g. the "boot" of a car rather than the
>>trunk). Tjhis may have been a list, an article, or some other format. I am
>>pretty sure such a list was in the classic publication _Murder Ink_, but our
>>ever efficient non-fiction librarians seem to have weeded our copy of that
>>into oblivion. And I am nearly positive I saw something similar online
>>somewhere. Does this ring a bell with anyone? I am doing a display of
>>detective fiction from around the world and wanted to create a little reader
>>quiz to go with it. TIA.
>>
>>Mary Rindfleisch
>>Adult Services/Readers' Advisory Librarian
>>Ridgefield Library
>>472 Main St.
>>Ridgefield, CT 06877
>>Phone: 203-438-2282
>>e-mail: [removed]@biblio.org
>>
>>
>>......................................................................
>>Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
>>Everything Fiction_L: http://www.webrary.org/rs/flmenu.html
>>
>
> ......................................................................
> Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
> Everything Fiction_L: http://www.webrary.org/rs/flmenu.html
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FROM: [removed]@aol.com
REC'D: 12/28/00, 2:21 PM

I highly recommend:

Understanding British English: Bridging the gap between the English language
and its American counterpart, by Margaret E. Moore, a Citadel Press book,
Carol Publishing Group, 1989.

Binnie Syril Braunstein
romance novelist/former librarian

FROM: Lisa Mettauer <[removed]@scls.lib.wi.us>
REC'D: 12/28/00, 3:46 PM

Mary;

Found this via Google.
http://www.peak.org/~jeremy/dictionary/dict.html
It seems to work.

Lisa

At 11:15 AM 12/28/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Help! I know I saw this information somewhere, but I have been looking
>through my bookmarked websites without success, so I am turning to the
>experts for assistance. Once upon a time, I am sure I saw on the web
>somewhere a list of common British words that crop up in crime fiction but
>are different from American usage (e.g. the "boot" of a car rather than the
>trunk). Tjhis may have been a list, an article, or some other format. I am
>pretty sure such a list was in the classic publication _Murder Ink_, but our
>ever efficient non-fiction librarians seem to have weeded our copy of that
>into oblivion. And I am nearly positive I saw something similar online
>somewhere. Does this ring a bell with anyone? I am doing a display of
>detective fiction from around the world and wanted to create a little reader
>quiz to go with it. TIA.
>
>Mary Rindfleisch
>Adult Services/Readers' Advisory Librarian
>Ridgefield Library
>472 Main St.
>Ridgefield, CT 06877
>Phone: 203-438-2282
>e-mail: [removed]@biblio.org
>
>
>......................................................................
>Need to subscribe, unsubscribe, search the archives?
>Everything Fiction_L: http://www.webrary.org/rs/flmenu.html
>
>
Lisa Mettauer
Madison Public Library
Madison, WI

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