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FROM: "Connie Millman" <[removed]@innercite.com>
REC'D: 1/3/00, 12:27 PM

We recently had a patron destroy - and willingly pay for - an audio-tape
that he found offensive. The tape was "Apaches" by Carcaterra. We are
discussing how to handle this: should the patron be refused further library
privileges; should we discuss what happened with him and point out that
there are channels for letting the library know when a patron feels that a
book is offensive; should we let it drop, and treat it as if it were any
"lost-and-paid? We would appreciate hearing if this has happened in other
libraries, and if so, how it was handled.

Thanks!
Connie Millman
Reference Libraian
El Dorado County Library

FROM: "J Heuer" <[removed]@itol.com>
REC'D: 1/3/00, 3:48 PM

Usually when something like this happens we never find out who did it. An
example we had was having all the "objectionable" words in a book blacked
out. I think your person needs to know there are proper channels for removal
of materials. What stops this person from doing this again when they find
another book they don't approve of? I would also replace the title. I'm not
familiar with this title but do you also have it in book form? Would the
patron want that removed also?


--
Jeanne Heuer
Brown County Library
Green Bay, WI
[removed]@itol.com

"Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes, Art is knowing which ones
to keep." -anonymous

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>From: Connie Millman <[removed]@innercite.com>
>To: [removed]@maillist.nslsilus.org
>Subject: Vigilante patron
>Date: Mon, Jan 3, 2000, 12:38 PM
>

>
> We recently had a patron destroy - and willingly pay for - an audio-tape
> that he found offensive. The tape was "Apaches" by Carcaterra. We are
> discussing how to handle this: should the patron be refused further library
> privileges; should we discuss what happened with him and point out that
> there are channels for letting the library know when a patron feels that a
> book is offensive; should we let it drop, and treat it as if it were any
> "lost-and-paid? We would appreciate hearing if this has happened in other
> libraries, and if so, how it was handled.
>
> Thanks!
> Connie Millman
> Reference Libraian
> El Dorado County Library
>

FROM: "Linda Cannon" <[removed]@mail.connect.more.net>
REC'D: 1/3/00, 4:30 PM

I would ban him from the library for a limited period, say three months,
and I'd be [removed]@# sure to tell him that the item was being replaced with the
money he paid for it. "There, a nice, shiny *new* copy! Thanks, vigilante!"


At 10:38 AM 01/03/2000 -0800, you wrote:
>
>We recently had a patron destroy - and willingly pay for - an audio-tape
>that he found offensive. The tape was "Apaches" by Carcaterra. We are
>discussing how to handle this: should the patron be refused further library
>privileges; should we discuss what happened with him and point out that
>there are channels for letting the library know when a patron feels that a
>book is offensive; should we let it drop, and treat it as if it were any
>"lost-and-paid? We would appreciate hearing if this has happened in other
>libraries, and if so, how it was handled.
>
>Thanks!
>Connie Millman
>Reference Libraian
>El Dorado County Library
>
>
Linda Cannon, Systems Librarian
Joplin Public Library
300 S. Main St.
Joplin, MO 64801-2384

417-623-7953 (fax 417-624-5217)
email [removed]@mail.connect.more.net

FROM: "Jane Casto" <[removed]@clsn1269.cumberland.lib.nc.us>
REC'D: 1/3/00, 5:00 PM

We have had at least one case of this (before my time) were at Cumberland
County. I do not remember what the outcome was, but we do have a very
clear citizen comment form and process.

In this case, I would tell the customer what the procedure is for
commenting on library materials, and also let him or her know that a future deliberate
destruction of
library property would result not only in fees but in a banning for six
months and possible prosecution for vandalism or willful destruction of
library property. This should be in writing by the library
director.

Would also review your policy and make changes if necessary to allow for
either prosecution or banning for 6 months at first instance of willful
destruction of library property.

Good luck!
__________________________________________________________________________
| Jane Casto |
| Librarian II |
| |
| Mail: Cumberland County Public Library & Information Center |
| Cliffdale Branch Library |
| 6882 Cliffdale Road |
| Fayetteville, North Carolina 28314-1975 |
| |
| E-Mail: [removed]@cumberland.lib.nc.us |
| <A HREF="http://www.cumberland.lib.nc.us">http://www.cumberland.lib.nc.us</A> |
| |
| Phone: (910) 864-2600 |
| Fax: (910) 487-9090 |
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FROM: "Nora M. Armstrong" <[removed]@clsn1269.cumberland.lib.nc.us>
REC'D: 1/4/00, 7:23 AM

Since it's a county library system, can't you charge the person with
destruction of county property?

Nora Armstrong
Cumberland County Public Library & Information Center
Fayetteville, NC
(910)483-7878, FAX (910)486-6661
[removed]@cumberland.lib.nc.us

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